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RE: Poll on teleconferences

From: <kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 01:50:56 +0000
To: <Joerg.Heuer@siemens.com>, <dsr@w3.org>, <public-wot-ig@w3.org>
CC: <kajimoto.kazuo@jp.panasonic.com>, <ohsumi.yoshiaki@jp.panasonic.com>
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Dear Dave-san, Joerg-san and WoT IG members,

Thank you very much for proposing practical teleconference meeting.
I agree with Joerg-san’s proposal.
I will be able to join “9am GMT group”, that is, 6pm Tuesday in Japan.

Let me introduce myself.

I’m Kazuo Kajimoto, senior councilor of group-wide software strategy of Panasonic corporation.
I was engaged in the development of strategic products in Panasonic, that is,

-       PC based video editing system in 80’s-90’s

-       Music distribution system with DRM for cellular phone around 2000

-       Terrestrial broadcasting system from 2001-2004

-       Embedded uni-concept software architecture named “UniPhier®” for wide variety of consumer electronics

-       Cloud based system architecture for home automation with consumer electronics

I’m expertized for system design from embedded software to cloud including cyber security, functional safety technology.
I am also SEPG leader, and Panasonic representative for many software related organizations.

Usage of consumer electronics depends on regional life style. So the design and specification is much different even in the same category of consumer electronics region-wise.
Moreover we easily say a word “consumer electronics”, but it consists of very wide variety of categories such as refrigerator, washing machine, microwave oven, TV, fixed telephone and so on.
So the services for consumer electronics is likely to be designed for only one category, for only one country.
It means that consumer electronics manufacturer has provided huge number of silo cloud based services in the world.
This fact is not good for new era of IoT/WoT.
Enhancing market of IoT/Wot, it is required to create common framework that everyone could join, provide products, provide service applications.
I’d like to contribute to lead consumers to new IoT/Wot era through WoT activity in W3C along with my experience.
This is my motivation to join WoT IG.

Hearing the terminology IoT and WoT, I guess everyone joining WoT IG has different image and concept.
At first, we might make effort to define image and concept of IoT/WoT and make consensus among WoT IG members.
It will be very tough work. ☺

Best regards,
Kazuo Kajimoto
Senior Councillor of Groupwide Software Strategy,
Groupwide CTO Office

From: Heuer, Joerg [mailto:Joerg.Heuer@siemens.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2015 8:37 AM
To: Dave Raggett; public-wot-ig@w3.org
Subject: AW: Poll on teleconferences

Thanks for your support and feedback to Daves poll. By your answer some of you already took the opportunity to briefly introduce yourself. I think this is for the start of the IG a good practice:

My name is Joerg Heuer. Some of you I might already have met at the WoT workshop in last summer in Berlin. I am responsible for embedded networks within Siemens Corporate Technology. The WoT trigger was set in our team by different cross domain applications in the fields of smart grid, electric mobility and automation. So we started to work with web technologies in embedded networks for pilot implementations. The discussions in the recent months have shown that there are quite different views on that elephant called WoT and I look forward to further discuss the understanding of WoT in the starting IG.

To start the work in the IG it seems to be most practical to have some initial calls. Based on your comments  it seems most appropriate to setup a sequence of two separate calls at least in the initialization phase of the WoT IG up to the first F2F. So the concrete proposal would be:

Starting with the 24th of February every Tuesday in
      Group GMT+X: the odd weeks have a call at 9 am GMT (stating with 24th February, biweekly) and
Group GMT-X: the even weeks have a call at 18 pm GMT (starting with 3rd of March, biweekly).

It is clear that this approach is not balanced. But taking the limited number of calls until a first F2F under account this approach enables all to participate and have at least only two groups in parallel which might make an initialization easier.

A)     What do you think of the two group approach? Is it feasible?

B)      Is Tuesday acceptable? At least it avoids Monday and Friday as mentioned in the replies.


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Von: Dave Raggett [mailto:dsr@w3.org]
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. Januar 2015 17:49
An: public-wot-ig@w3.org<mailto:public-wot-ig@w3.org>
Betreff: Poll on teleconferences

This is a request for feedback that will help the Chairs of the Web of Things Interest Group decide the frequency and time slots for teleconferences.

When I just checked we have a broad distribution of participants from around the World, approximately as follows:

            • 11 people in North America
            • 8 people in Japan
            • 6 people in Germany
            • 6 people in Ireland
            • 3 people in South Korea
            • 3 people in the UK
            • 2 people in Finland
            • 2 people in France
            • 1 person in Australia
            • 1 person in Norway

This makes it impractical to find a single time slot that will be convenient for everyone.  You can find time slots that are okay for America and Europe,     Europe and Asia, or Asia and America, but you can’t find a time slot that is good for America and Europe and Asia.

We could consider alternating the time slot, to inconvenience America one week, Europe, the next and Asia, the week after.   This could get confusing, but is reasonably easy to set up with repeat every 3 week entries in calendar apps.

Which days of the week work best for you?  What times are good/okay/bad (please indicate which timezone)?

Some W3C groups prefer to avoid regular teleconferences, and conduct their work using a mix of face to face meetings, email, text chat, wikis, issue trackers and revision control systems (typically Github).

In principle, the IG Chairs could manage a time shifted distributed meeting using Google Docs or equivalent live document solution.  The document would be created by the Chairs with the agenda, and participants would add their questions and responses to each section of the agenda during their own working day.  Each meeting would run for a week to give plenty of time for extended conversations.  This approach would make it easier for the Chairs to manage the work of the group as a whole as compared to basic issue trackers as on Github.  If Google docs isn’t available to all IG participants, e.g. it is blocked, then I could look into alternative solutions, e.g. installing Etherpad on a w3.org<http://w3.org> system. Or perhaps one of the companies participating in the IG could offer an alternative?

Another approach would be to try to organise work on a regional basis, e.g. for participants in Japan (for example) to conduct a survey of use cases and current practices in Japan, and then report back to the whole group.

I was considering an online poll, but got stuck when it come to the kinds of questions needed to cover all the possibilities. Please reply to this message to provide your feedback, or you prefer, send it just to me.  We may then have a more narrowly scoped poll if that proves appropriate.

Looking forward to your input!

   Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org<mailto:dsr@w3.org>>

Received on Wednesday, 11 February 2015 13:20:27 UTC

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