- From: Rotan Hanrahan <rotan.hanrahan@mobileaware.com>
- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:22:04 -0000
- To: "Thomas Baker" <baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de>, "public-wiki-dev" <public-wiki-dev@w3.org>
I am happy to confirm, as I announced during the recent AC meeting, that I have completed and demonstrated a means to port MoinMoin content to MediaWiki, while preserving all of the original page URLs and all of the edit history of all those pages. The only exception is MoinMoin attachments, for which a deterministic URL redirect is necessary because the MoinMoin server references those resources via an ugly GET with parameters. I have also given some thought to the possibility of capturing the state of an entire wiki and converting it into a set of fixed pages (i.e. no wiki server behind it) to be applied to wikis that have "died". This would enable the pages to be preserved ad infinitum (well, as long as the Web servers are running) and reduce the processing load on the wiki servers. I am not involved in the planning process for the introduction of MediaWiki in W3C, though I can confirm that there is much interest and demand. It was because some who had already embarked on a MoinMoin wiki wanted to migrate to MediaWiki that I took upon myself the challenge of writing some software to do the conversion while preserving the original wiki (the content, history and original URLs where possible). My activity is purely self-driven. I'm not acting on behalf of the W3C, but as a chair of one of the W3C's groups I am responding to requests from the participants and doing what I can to help. Hopefully I will be soon putting the migration of the DDWG wiki into effect, and I'm happy to share this experience with other groups who would like to follow suit. Hope this helps. ---Rotan. -----Original Message----- From: public-wiki-dev-request@w3.org [mailto:public-wiki-dev-request@w3.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Baker Sent: 20 November 2007 07:34 To: public-wiki-dev Subject: W3C wikis and preservation Dear all, I am co-chair of Semantic Web Deployment WG, where we make extensive use of MoinMoin wiki. I have alot of questions about MediaWiki and the planned migration (e.g., practicalities, timeframe), but I also have some more general questions about the strategic role of wikis in W3C. In SWD, we use the wikis for almost all collaborative writing and CVS almost only for formal publication. One fundamental question: What are the prospects for the preservation of MoinMoin (and MediaWiki) content and the citability of wiki documents in the long term? The SWD meeting records and postings in the mailing list such as [1] currently cite documents such as [2]. How long will these links likely remain resolvable? Is there a document or meeting record describing the W3C use of wikis and the planned migration to MediaWiki (e.g., with a comparison to MoinMoin) that I can read to get up to speed? Tom [1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-swd-wg/2007Oct/0042.html [2] http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/wiki/SkosDesign/ConceptSemantics/MinimalPr oposal?action=recall&rev=3 -- Thomas Baker <baker@sub.uni-goettingen.de> W3C Semantic Web Deployment Working Group http://www.w3.org/2006/07/SWD/
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