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Re: [whatwg] Expose XMLHttpRequest [Fetch?] priority

From: Ilya Grigorik <igrigorik@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 21:33:13 -0700
Message-ID: <CAKRe7JGpWn=1eyzCtL8TmZ9PRTL3dBqDFF+_t6+kXGvMQJpPkA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Chad Austin <caustin@gmail.com>
Cc: WHATWG <whatwg@whatwg.org>
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:39 PM, Chad Austin <caustin@gmail.com> wrote:

> Weight is actually not what I want.  I want priority.  They're different
> concepts in that priority implies trumping and weight implies proportional
> resource allocation.
>
> That is, if I make 10 high-priority requests, 20 medium-priority requests,
> and 30 low-priority requests, I don't want ANY of the low-priority requests
> to consume any resources until either 1) all higher-priority requests have
> been serviced or 2) there are spare resources that cannot otherwise be used
> for higher-priority requests.
>

And.. you've just defined a three-level deep dependency tree, with weights
for resources within each group.


> As you quoted, "Streams with the same parent SHOULD be allocated resources
> proportionally based on their weight."  Proportional allocation would be
> incorrect for this use case.
>

Proportional within the same level of the tree, and based on assigned
weights within that level.

ig



>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:19 PM, Ilya Grigorik <igrigorik@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Chad Austin <caustin@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't see a way to set a priority value in there.  The specific
>>> wording is "Streams can be prioritized by marking them as dependent on the,
>>> completion of other streams".
>>>
>>> I see that a client can specify the weight of a stream and you can say
>>> that a stream depends on another stream.  Neither of those are what I
>>> want.  I simply want to specify priorities of a bunch of requests.  How
>>> would I do that in HTTP 2.0?
>>>
>>
>> Weight is exactly what you want:
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-14#section-5.3.2
>>
>> "A stream that is not dependent on any other stream is given a stream
>>    dependency of 0x0.  In other words, the non-existent stream 0 forms
>>    the root of the tree."
>>
>> All dependent streams are allocated an integer weight between 1 to
>>    256 (inclusive)... Streams with the same parent SHOULD be allocated
>> resources
>>    proportionally based on their weight. "
>>
>> In other words, if you don't care about dependencies, then don't assign
>> the parent. Doing so will make all streams children of the root of the tree
>> (0x0), and from there you can use weights to assign relative priority.
>>
>> Hope that makes sense.
>>
>> ig
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Chad Austin
> http://chadaustin.me
>
Received on Thursday, 2 October 2014 04:34:18 UTC

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