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Re: [whatwg] Notifications: the ability to specify notifications behavior

From: Robert Bindar <robertbindar@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2014 09:18:48 -0700
Message-ID: <5400A7E8.6020403@gmail.com>
To: Jonas Sicking <jonas@sicking.cc>
Cc: WHAT Working Group <whatwg@whatwg.org>, James Burke <jburke@mozilla.com>, julienw@mozilla.com, Michael Henretty <mhenretty@mozilla.com>

On 08/13/2014 04:36 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Robert Bindar <robertbindar@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Concerning web notifications, it would be very helpful for content and web
>> apps
>> to have a way of specifying the behavior their notifications should have.
>> For instance, a chat client may not always want to play a sound when sending
>> a notification pertaining to a new message. Or in the mobile web, an app
>> may want to avoid waking the screen on every notification to save battery
>> life. Web content could have a way to "suggest" these behaviors to the user
>> agent.
> Agreed. We've run into similar shortcomings when writing mobile webapps.
>
>
>>      new Notification('title', {
>>          tag: 'tag',
>>          behavior: {
>>              vibration: true,
>>              silent: true,
>>              lights: false,
>>              list: true,
>>              noclear: true,
>>              squash: true,
>>          }
>>      });
> It might be good to structure these such that the default is always
> 'false'. That way it's more intuitive what behavior you get if you
> leave out a property.
>
>>      * vibration - vibrate the device
>>      * silent - "true" means do not play a sound when firing the
>> notification(the sound
>>                      is enabled by default in firefox for OSX, not available
>> in Linux and Windows)
> The tricky thing with these is how to deal with situations when the
> user has turned of audio or turned off vibration for notifications.
>
> If the user has turned off audio for notifications, and the page
> specifies "vibration: false", does that mean that this notification is
> entirely silent? I suspect that's not what the user expected when
> turning off audio.
>
>>      * lights - turn the screen on
> Agreed on this one.
>
>>      * list - add a new entry to the notification list
> I don't understand this one.
>
>>      * noclear - this notification shouldn't be closed when pressing the
>> ClearAll button
> This one is interesting. I could see the value for notifications that
> deliver progress notifications about an ongoing event to the user.
> Though I hate the idea of users not being in control of their
> notifications area. Perhaps it's ok that the notification doesn't get
> cleared if a 'clear all' button is pressed, but that the user can
> somehow explicitly clear that certain notification.
>
>>      * squash - every time you'll find a notification with the same tag, do
>> not disrupt the
>>                       user, just update the existing notification
> This is the main purpose of using tags. When would you not want this behavior?
>
>> Again, the `behaviors` object is just a package of suggestions for how a
>> notification should behave,
>> but it is up to the user-agent to determine whether it wants to honor these
>> behaviors
>> (based on platform support, user settings, or even general user experience).
> I don't think it makes much difference to say "this is just a
> suggestion". UAs won't magically know what's right and what's wrong.
> If we can't on this list think of good heuristics to use, then I don't
> think we should expect UAs to do either.
>
> / Jonas

I know there is still plenty of room left for discussions around this
behaviors package, but I have only 3 weeks left of my internship and I
would like to implement a prototype of this idea and give it a try
in Firefox OS.

My thought is to firstly introduce a small package of behaviors that
would include "lights", "vibration" and "disrupting"
(and maybe "noclear" too).
The default value for all these 3 behaviors is false.

As I said in a previous email, "disrupting" behavior specifies to the UA
to update the notification silently and not produce any other action
that could disrupt the user (play a sound every time,
flash the screen, etc).
This behavior could be very useful for intensive notifiers like email
updates,

If you have any name suggestions or feedback about these initial
options please let me know.

Robert-
Received on Friday, 29 August 2014 16:19:19 UTC

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