- From: Gregg Tavares <gman@google.com>
- Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 17:07:05 -0700
- To: Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com>
- Cc: WHATWG <whatwg@lists.whatwg.org>, Stephen White <senorblanco@chromium.org>, Robert O'Callahan <robert@ocallahan.org>
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Rik Cabanier <cabanier@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Gregg Tavares <gman@google.com> wrote: > >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Stephen White <senorblanco@chromium.org >> >wrote: >> >> > Would Mozilla (or other browser vendors) be interested in implementing >> the >> > hint as Gregg described above? >> > >> > If so, we could break out the LCD text issue from canvas opacity, and >> > consider the latter on its own merits, since it has benefits apart from >> LCD >> > text (i.e., performance). Regarding that, if I'm reading correctly, >> > Vladimir Vukicevic has expressed support on webkit-dev for the >> > ctx.getContext('2d', { alpha: false }) proposal (basically, a syntactic >> > rewrite of <canvas opaque>). Does this indeed have traction with other >> > browser vendors? >> > >> > As for naming, I would prefer that it be something like >> ctx.fontSmoothing >> > or ctx.fontSmoothingHint, to align more closely with canvas's >> > ctx.imageSmoothingEnabled and webkit's -webkit-font-smoothing CSS >> property. >> > -webkit-font-smoothing has "none", "antialiased" and >> > "subpixel-antialiased" as options. I think it's ok to explicitly call >> out >> > subpixel antialiasing, even if the platform (or UA) does not support it, >> > especially if the attribute explicitly describes itself as a hint. >> > >> >> >> Why call it "Font" smoothing? Shouldn't a UA be able to also render paths >> using the same hint? >> > > I have not heard of anyone using sub-pixel antialiasing for vector art. It > might look weird... > ??? Fonts are vector art. Why should this flag be specific to fonts? So I decide tomorrow that I want vector art to be prettier than the competition in by implementing LCD anti-aliasing I'll have to lobby for a new flag to turn it on? Why? > > >> >> >> > >> > Stephen >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Gregg Tavares <gman@google.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Robert O'Callahan < >> robert@ocallahan.org >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Sat, Mar 16, 2013 at 5:52 PM, Gregg Tavares <gman@google.com> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> Let me ask again in a different way ;-) Specifically about LCD >> style >> >> >> antialiasing. >> >> >> >> >> >> What about a context attribute "antialiasRenderingQualityHint" for >> now >> >> >> with >> >> >> 2 settings "default" and "displayDependent" >> >> >> >> >> >> context.antialiasRenderingQualityHint = "displayDependent" >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > How would this interact with canvas opacity? E.g. if the author uses >> >> > displayDependent and then draws text over transparent pixels in the >> >> canvas, >> >> > what is the UA supposed to do? >> >> > >> >> >> >> Whatever the UA wants. It's a hint. From my POV, since the spec doesn't >> >> say >> >> anything about anti-aliasing then it really doesn't matter. >> >> >> >> My preference, if I was programming a UA, would be if the user sets >> >> "displayDependent" and the UA is running on a lo-dpi machine I'd >> >> unconditionally render LCD-AA with the assumption that the canvas is >> >> composited on white. If they want some other color they'd fill the >> canvas >> >> with as solid color first. Personally I don't think that needs to be >> >> specced, but it would be my suggestion. As I mentioned, even without >> this >> >> hint the spec doesn't prevent a UA from unconditionally using LCD-AA. >> >> >> >> Very few developers are going to run into issues. Most developers that >> use >> >> canvas aren't going to set the hint. Most developers that use canvas >> dont' >> >> make it transparent nor do they CSS rotate/scale them. For those few >> >> developers that do happen to blend and/or rotate/scale AND set the hint >> >> they'll get probably get some fringing but there (a) there was no >> >> guarantee >> >> they wouldn't already have that problem since as pointed out, the spec >> >> doesn't specify AA nor what kind, and (b) if they care they'll either >> stop >> >> using the hint or they'll search for "why is my canvas fringy" and the >> >> answer will pop up on stackoverlow and they can choose one of the >> >> solutions. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > Rob >> >> > -- >> >> > Wrfhf pnyyrq gurz gbtrgure naq fnvq, “Lbh xabj gung gur ehyref bs gur >> >> > Tragvyrf ybeq vg bire gurz, naq gurve uvtu bssvpvnyf rkrepvfr >> nhgubevgl >> >> > bire gurz. Abg fb jvgu lbh. Vafgrnq, jubrire jnagf gb orpbzr terng >> nzbat >> >> > lbh zhfg or lbhe freinag, naq jubrire jnagf gb or svefg zhfg or lbhe >> >> fynir >> >> > — whfg nf gur Fba bs Zna qvq abg pbzr gb or freirq, ohg gb freir, >> naq gb >> >> > tvir uvf yvsr nf n enafbz sbe znal.” [Znggurj 20:25-28] >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> > >
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