- From: Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@webkit.org>
- Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2012 12:13:09 -0700
- To: "Tab Atkins Jr." <jackalmage@gmail.com>
- Cc: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org, "www-style@w3.org" <www-style@w3.org>, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net>
On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Tab Atkins Jr. <jackalmage@gmail.com>wrote: > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Ryosuke Niwa <rniwa@webkit.org> wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 9:19 PM, fantasai <fantasai.lists@inkedblade.net > >wrote: > >> The CSSWG discussed drag-and-drop pseudo-classes today. The current > >> proposal is to have three pseudo-classes: > >> > >> * One for the element representing the drop target that > >> would receive the item if it were dropped. > >> * One for all elements representing possible drop targets > >> that could receive the item. > > > > How do we find these elements? On one hand, if we're only supporting > > dropzone attribute, then adding new pseudo element seems unnecessary. On > > the other hand, I can't think of ways to detect whether an element could > > return false or prevents the default action on dragover/dragenter events > > without firing those events. > > Just using [dropzone], yes. > > We're not adding a pseudo-element, we're adding pseudo-classes. > > I'm not sure how we can possibly do these without pseudo-classes. Can > you outline what you think it would be? I'm asking how we're supposed to implement this pseudo-classes given that the only way to know whether an element can receive the item is by firing dragenter and/or dragover events. e.g. http://dev.w3.org/csswg/selectors4/#drag-pseudos says The :valid-drop-target pseudo-class represents an element that is a possible drop target for an item that is currently being dragged in a drag-and-drop interface. How are we going to figure out whether a given element is a possible drop target for an item, when the element can dynamically decide whether to accept the item or not in dragenter/dragover events? As well, the pseudo that matches "the drop target that will be used if > you dropped right now" might not be expressible in pure CSS even given > the above. It's probably equivalent to "when you :hover it", but > there are applications that basically have this functionality that > work differently - for example, I think that the built-in Windows > solitaire game highlight the closest drop target to the current mouse > pointer, even if you're nowhere near the actual drop zone. > Yeah, and that's not compatible with how drag and drop are implemented on the Web. - Ryosuke
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