- From: Steve Faulkner <faulkner.steve@gmail.com>
- Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 20:23:08 +0100
- To: whatwg@lists.whatwg.org
Hi Henri, you wrote: "Firefox for Android (at least on the Nightly channel) displays the content of the title attribute on XKCD comics (up to a length limit which can often be too limiting) upon tap and hold: http://hsivonen.iki.fi/screen/xkcd-firefox-for-android.png" that's useful data, too bad about the truncation issue, as I pointed out in my recent email to the list, that is an issue for both alt/title fallback on some desktop browsers. philip wrote: " it seems unwise to recommend using the title attribute to convey important information." The title attribute has sever limitations in its utiltity, if one goal is to provide accessible content, I detailed some some cases where it should and should not be used [1] "Indeed. In addition to image considerations, I think http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#footnotes is bad advice." I agree and have detailed the reasons why [2] [1] using the HTML title attribute http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/2010/11/using-the-html-title-attribute/ [2] http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/notitle_annotations regards Stevef > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 15:56:23 +0300 > From: Henri Sivonen <hsivonen@iki.fi> > To: whatwg <whatwg@whatwg.org> > Subject: Re: [whatwg] alt and title attribute exception > Message-ID: > <CAJQvAufAJp=PN=gAKD3oUCL4suwwWdMg6= > cfbqewrvgipvSWyg@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Philip J?genstedt <philipj@opera.com> > wrote: > > When this was last discussed in the HTML WG (January 2012) I opened a bug > > (MOBILE-275) for Opera Mobile to expose the title attribute in our > > long-click menu, arguing that one could not enjoy XKCD without it. I > meant > > to report back to the HTML WG but forgot, so here it is. Unfortunately, > the > > bug was rejected... quoting the project management: > > > > "Sure it is nice to have, but noone else has it so we will not put our > > effort into this" > > Firefox for Android (at least on the Nightly channel) displays the > content of the title attribute on XKCD comics (up to a length limit > which can often be too limiting) upon tap and hold: > http://hsivonen.iki.fi/screen/xkcd-firefox-for-android.png > > Not to suggest that XKCD's title usage is OK but just to correct the > "noone else" bit. > > > it seems unwise to recommend using the title attribute to convey > important information. > > Indeed. In addition to image considerations, I think > http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/#footnotes is bad > advice. > > -- > Henri Sivonen > hsivonen@iki.fi > http://hsivonen.iki.fi/ > > >
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