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[whatwg] The blockquote element spec vs common quoting practices

From: Jukka K. Korpela <jkorpela@cs.tut.fi>
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 14:09:06 +0300
Message-ID: <4E1ECE52.7090506@cs.tut.fi>
14.07.2011 13:49, Karl Dubost wrote:

> using that for years (almost every day), an example
> http://www.la-grange.net/2011/06/05/fruit
>
> <blockquote cite="urn:isbn:978-2-07-07533-7">
>      <p>Sur un p?tale de lotus, j'?crivis ces quelques vers :</p>
>      <p>?<q>M?me si l'on vient me chercher<br/>
>          Comment, abandonnant la ros?e<br/>
>          De pareil lotus,<br/>
>          Retournerai-je<br/>
>          Dans le monde changeant et frivole ?</q>  ?</p>
>      <p>et j'envoyais ce p?tale.</p>
>      <p class="source">
>          <cite class="auteur">Shonagon, Sei</cite>,
>          <cite class="titre">Notes de chevet</cite>, p.64, Unesco, NRF, 1966.</p>
> </blockquote>

That?s quite good, though I think <footer class="source"> would be in 
principle better than <p class="source">, though using <footer> still 
requires some precautions in practice (I mean ?teaching? it to old IE 
using document.createElement('footer') in JavaScript, so that your 
styling will take effect).

Microdata or microformats might be used to standardize the use of 
specific attributes to be used, like class="credits", class="author", 
class="title" etc., if desired. But I don?t think that?s particularly 
important.

(I don't like to nitpick on the author identification, but wouldn?t
<cite class="auteur" lang="jp-Latn">Sh?nagon, Sei</cite> be better?)

> My favorite issue being when there is a mix of cite in the prose and blockquotes,
 > there is no mechanism to associate the right cite with the right 
blockquote

It would be nice to be able to associate credits with quotations at the 
markup level, but in practice, presenting credits visibly (or audibly or 
touchably) is much more important. No law requires us to provide credits 
that way, but laws do require us to provide credits the way they are 
normally provided in good style (or in a better way).

-- 
Yucca, http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/
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