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From: Diego Perini <diego.perini@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 00:03:15 +0200
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On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 11:19 PM, Ashley Sheridan
<ash at ashleysheridan.co.uk>wrote:

>  On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:13 +0100, Shane Fagan wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 16:07 -0500, Mike Wilcox wrote:
> > >>On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, balachandar muruganantham wrote:>
> > >> I have heard from people that there have been a discussion on
> > supporting
> > >> the fullscreen mode for HTML5 video element. can anyone share the
> > >> information on the conclusion we arrived at? i searched in the archive
> > >> but i could not come to any conclusion.
> >
> > >On March 25th, Ian Hickson then said:
> > >The conclusion was that it is a presentational issue and therefore should
> > >be handled in one of the CSSOM specs. Unfortunately we don't have anyone
> > >who has the bandwidth to edit a spec to specify how to make things go
> > >full-screen. WebKit is experimenting with some APIs in this space, I
> > >believe.
> > I hope it's not minded if I weigh in on this topic as I feel strongly
> > about it.
> >
> >
> > It's very important that the HTML5 spec address developers' needs
> > without crippling their abilities due to unfounded or incorrect
> > security implementations. This is the problem we've been dealing with
> > in regard to the file input uploaders for years, trying to simply
> > apply a little CSS style to them.
> >
> >
> > Adobe has blocked inappropriate use of fullscreen by tying that
> > functionality to the click of a button. It can't be done onload or
> > programmatically, it requires a user's interaction. The HTML5 spec can
> > provide the same thing for fullscreen video. It's no different than
> > the security used for HTML file inputs ? you can't open a a File
> > Browse Dialog, the user must click a button.
> >
> >
> > I sincerely hope developers' needs aren't made secondary in such
> > debates. While I appreciate proper browser security, in some cases it
> > forces us to just look for workarounds to circumvent the security. The
> > lack of fullscreen is a serious issue for us as we deal with clients
> > and superiors who ask us to replace the Flash video player with an
> > HTML5 video player... only to have us go back to them and say "Here is
> > the cool player with custom controls... sorry, you can't do fullscreen
> > though, it's not allowed". The obvious response to this is "Flash
> > can, why can't HTML5?" and "well, let's just use Flash then."
> >
>
> Couldnt we have a property in the video tag that allows full screen?
> That would solve what you are saying I think.
>
>
> --fagan
>
>
>
>
>
> Not really. The argument is about abuse of a fullscreen mode. An attribute
> in the <video> tag would mean it would start in fullscreen mode, which would
> be the easiest way to abuse it.
>
>   Thanks,
> Ash
> http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk
>
>
>
The attribute should only instruct the browser to show the fullscreen button
in the controls panels and in the context menu and not to switch to
fullscreen mode immediately.

This will allow to enforce/maintain a user action as the trigger for the
fullscreen mode and thus avoid abuse of the feature programmatically.

--
Diego Perini
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