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From: Ashley Sheridan <ash@ashleysheridan.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 22:19:34 +0100
Message-ID: <1277068774.2241.1.camel@localhost>
On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 22:13 +0100, Shane Fagan wrote:

> On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 16:07 -0500, Mike Wilcox wrote:
> > >>On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, balachandar muruganantham wrote:>
> > >> I have heard from people that there have been a discussion on
> > supporting 
> > >> the fullscreen mode for HTML5 video element. can anyone share the 
> > >> information on the conclusion we arrived at? i searched in the archive 
> > >> but i could not come to any conclusion.
> > 
> > >On March 25th, Ian Hickson then said:
> > >The conclusion was that it is a presentational issue and therefore should 
> > >be handled in one of the CSSOM specs. Unfortunately we don't have anyone 
> > >who has the bandwidth to edit a spec to specify how to make things go 
> > >full-screen. WebKit is experimenting with some APIs in this space, I 
> > >believe.
> > I hope it's not minded if I weigh in on this topic as I feel strongly
> > about it.
> > 
> > 
> > It's very important that the HTML5 spec address developers' needs
> > without crippling their abilities due to unfounded or incorrect
> > security implementations. This is the problem we've been dealing with
> > in regard to the file input uploaders for years, trying to simply
> > apply a little CSS style to them.
> > 
> > 
> > Adobe has blocked inappropriate use of fullscreen by tying that
> > functionality to the click of a button. It can't be done onload or
> > programmatically, it requires a user's interaction. The HTML5 spec can
> > provide the same thing for fullscreen video. It's no different than
> > the security used for HTML file inputs ? you can't open a a File
> > Browse Dialog, the user must click a button.
> > 
> > 
> > I sincerely hope developers' needs aren't made secondary in such
> > debates. While I appreciate proper browser security, in some cases it
> > forces us to just look for workarounds to circumvent the security. The
> > lack of fullscreen is a serious issue for us as we deal with clients
> > and superiors who ask us to replace the Flash video player with an
> > HTML5 video player... only to have us go back to them and say "Here is
> > the cool player with custom controls... sorry, you can't do fullscreen
> > though, it's not allowed". The obvious response to this is "Flash
> > can, why can't HTML5?" and "well, let's just use Flash then."
> > 
> 
> Couldnt we have a property in the video tag that allows full screen?
> That would solve what you are saying I think. 
> 
> 
> --fagan
> 
> 
> 


Not really. The argument is about abuse of a fullscreen mode. An
attribute in the <video> tag would mean it would start in fullscreen
mode, which would be the easiest way to abuse it.

Thanks,
Ash
http://www.ashleysheridan.co.uk


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