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[whatwg] H.264-in-<video> vs plugin APIs

From: Maik Merten <maikmerten@googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:28:27 +0200
Message-ID: <4A388D0B.2000504@googlemail.com>
Hi Chris,

I provide an additional comparison at
http://people.xiph.org/~maikmerten/youtube/ using different content.
This doesn't qualify as "more movement/action" (it's hard to get free HD
samples of such content in good quality), but content like the one I
used is common nonetheless on community video streaming platforms.

bye,

Maik

Chris DiBona wrote:
> Hi greg;
> 
> I'll pass this on, it's a good post. Have you considered other kinds
> of video tests as well? (something cell shaded, more movement/action,
> etc...) as it stands, it's useful, with more examples, it might be
> more convincing as an argument for Theora.
> 
> Chris
> 
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 1:15 AM, Gregory Maxwell<gmaxwell at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Chris DiBona<cdibona at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Comparing Daily Motion to Youtube is disingenuous. If yt were to
>>> switch to theora and maintain even a semblance of the current youtube
>>> quality it would take up most available bandwidth across the internet.
>> [snip]
>>
>> I'm not sure what mixture of misinformation and hyperbole inspired
>> this remark, but I believe that it is misleading and to leave it stand
>> without comment would be a disservice to this working group.
>>
>> I have prepared a detailed response:
>> http://people.xiph.org/~greg/video/ytcompare/comparison.html
>>
>>
>> I understand that the selection and implementation of video,
>> especially at the scale of YouTube, is worlds apart from such a
>> simplistic comparison. But you didn't claim that Theora support would
>> be inconvenient, that it would require yet-unjustified expenditure, or
>> that the total cost would simply be somewhat higher than the H.264
>> solution. You basically claimed that Theora on YouTube would destroy
>> the internet.  I'd consider that too silly to respond to if I didn't
>> know that many would take it as the literal truth.
>>
>> Even though I wish Google were doing more to promote open video, I
>> appreciate all that it has done so far.  I hope that I'll soon be able
>> to add a retraction or amendment of that claim to the list.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Maxwell
>>
> 
> 
> 
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