- From: Hallvord R M Steen <hallvors@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2008 10:54:54 +0200
2008/9/25 Toby A Inkster <mail at tobyinkster.co.uk>: >> 3) Add an on-by-default mechanism that prevents UI actions to be taken >> when a document tries to obstruct portions of a non-same-origin frame. > > Something like focus-follows-mouse plus autoraise for IFRAMEs might work. Not likely. The entire point of an IFRAME is to blend in seamlessly with the rest of the parent site's content. I think it is just about impossible to come up with a UI that will violate this "meshability" of the IFRAME in a non-intrusive way AND signal clearly to Mr. Newbie User that this part of the page comes from another site than the rest and should be given a different level of "trust". Plainly: I believe there are no acceptable UI solutions to this problem. What follows is my personal opinion which I've also explained on internal Opera mailing lists (I've seen some people agree but I want to make it clear that I'm not expressing any developer consensus or expressing "Opera's point of view" just yet). To give webmasters more ways to deal with this situation, I think we should implement the Access Control "Origin" HTTP-header only (assuming that it should refer to the top site in the frameset hierarchy). Reasoning: Sites may want to use any of several policies in a "somebody framed me" situation. For example, these are all policies a site may want to deploy: 1. nobody may frame my content 2. selected sites only may frame my content 3. anyone may frame my content but not re-use an existing session 4. anyone may frame my content Giving the site an "Origin: http://www.example.com" HTTP header in the intial request lets the backend implement any of these policies. Instead of responding with a payload that always includes some variant of the proposed "X-I-Do-Not-Want-To-Be-Framed-Across-Domains: yes" header, the site can send or redirect to a framebreaking "embedding forbidden" page for policy #1. It can do so selectively based on origin site and/or requested content for policy #2. It can kill existing cookies, void session and set new origin-specific cookies for policy #3.) IMO the only UI precaution we can/should do if possible is to make transparent IFRAMEs "transparent to events" - basically un-focusable. -- Hallvord R. M. Steen
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