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[whatwg] Citing multiple <blockquote> elements in HTML5

From: Calogero Alex Baldacchino <alex.baldacchino@email.it>
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 17:38:26 +0100
Message-ID: <4932C182.5010905@email.it>
Ian Hickson ha scritto:
> I've removed the offending text.
>
> I don't think we can say that quotes should always come before their 
> citations. For example, it's easy to imagine a blog that says:
>
>    <p><cite>Book The First</cite> says:</p>
>    <blockquote>...from book 1...</blockquote>
>    <p>But <cite>Book The Second</cite> says:</p>
>    <blockquote>...from book 2...</blockquote>
>
> ...which is equally problematic.
>
> Frankly, I'm not sure this was solving any real problems anyway.
>
>   
I'm not sure I'm understanding the whole function of the <cite> element, 
and perhaps I'm bothering again with ids and references, but the 
relationship between a <cite> and a quotation could be disambiguated by 
coupling an id and a reference to that id. For instance, if it made 
sense to relate several quotations to a single <cite>, the <cite> 
element could hold the id, and every block related to the same source 
could refer to it with an attribute, let's call it 'from'.

Q: What problem does it solve?
Uhm... perhaps a first cite could be a complete reference, i.e. a book 
name along its author, publisher and IBAN code, or a reference to 
another site/blog, its author and a link to the page with the quoted 
text. Ok, and now? Let's say any other reference to the same sorce could 
be shorter and without the need of any markup, but for styling, while 
the quotation block could remind the whole sorce to the reader, for 
instance, when the user moved his pointer over it, or focuses the 
<blockquote>, a tooltip could present the citation content - as if it 
where the content of the title attribute - and a screen reader could 
speak it aloud after the quotation, and if the referred <cite> contained 
a link, a click on the <blocquote> content (or any other kind of 
activation) could open the linked page in another tab/window.

For sure, no reference to any natural language can disambiguate such 
relationship (human languages are ambigous and context-dependent by 
definition).

BR, Alex
 
 
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