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[whatwg] WHAT-WG Status?

From: Brad Neuberg <bkn3@columbia.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:45:55 -0800
Message-ID: <6.1.0.6.2.20041227134043.0235a2f0@pop.mail.yahoo.com>
At 01:35 PM 12/27/2004, Ian Hickson wrote:
>On Mon, 27 Dec 2004, Brad Neuberg wrote:
> >
> > Hi folks.  Whats the status on the WHAT drafts, when they will be
> > finalized, and when we can start hacking on implementations?  Lets get
> > this stuff out.
>
>Web Forms 2 is basically done -- the last call for comments had no major
>comments, although I'm waiting until after the holidays to go out and
>request comments explicitly so that might yet change. I'd expect us to
>submit Web Forms 2 to a standards organisation or publish it as a Call for
>Implementations on the WHATWG site in 2005 Q1.


I like that idea of having a Call for Implementations to see how things pan 
out when the draft is actually implemented.

Another idea, which isn't appropriate for the WHAT drafts since they are 
mostly hashed out, would be to have a bake off where people simply 
implement and submit proof of concept implementations of improved web APIs; 
think of it as an X-Prize for web APIs, where the goal is defined but the 
exact way to achieve it is not (and no ten million dollar prize ;)  The 
implementors could determine for themselves what new tags and APIs to add; 
they would not be working against a draft.  This allows many people to 
innovate on their own without the overhead of a standards committee; at the 
end of the process others involved in the effort could vote on which one 
was the easiest to use, had the best performance, etc.  The great thing 
about this is that it allows for innovation, which standards committees are 
terrible at; allows a single implementation/design to "win", which 
decentralized innovation is not very good at; and ends with a defacto 
implementation already available.  Even better would be if the 
implementation were open source.

Hope all is well,
   Brad Neuberg


>Web Apps 1 is still in early stages. No ETA.
>
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Brad Neuberg, bkn3 at columbia.edu
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