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[whatwg] Seperation of Content and Interface

From: Lachlan Hunt <lachlan.hunt@iinet.net.au>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 18:57:47 +1000
Message-ID: <4125BD0B.7070803@iinet.net.au>
Jim Ley wrote:
>>What exactly has been fixed?
> 
> the error in the DTD that you were reporting.

I'm sure it has, but not according to IE.

>>What?  The fact that it doesn't support HTML or XHTML at all
> 
> You're claiming IE doesn't support HTML now?

No, it doesn't fully support it.  Though, technically, Mozilla and Opera 
don't fully support HTML either (see these tests [1]), but IE is far 
worse.  It doesn't fully support <abbr>, <object>, <link/>, and probably 
several more elements and attributes.

> Do you mean:  http://www.lachy.id.au/  ? in which case, I seem to get
> HTML 4.01 documents...

Yes, I put in some effort to set up content negotiation when I set it 
up, so I knew you would get HTML 4.01, but my point was that IE can't 
render documents well at all.  However, I have had a report that someone 
who tried to use IE recieved a 406 response...  I don't know what caused 
it, but IE must be more broken than I thought if it can even get the 
Accept header correct sometimes.

> and the rendering is better than the firefox
> rendering, which seems really slow... not surprising as it waits for
> ages before starting to render it...

LOL!  Now, that's just being arrogant.  It's quite obvious that the 
document is a complete mess in IE, though it's not as bad as it was ? I 
included a single hack to make it at least readable.  There's not much 
else I can say, except congratulations, you've recieved an award ? [2].

[1] http://www.lachy.id.au/dev/markup/tests/html401/shorttag/net/
(Note: Mozilla does not correctly view the source as it's written in the 
files, so you'll have to save the file and view with text editor or 
another browser)

[2] http://www.lachy.id.au/blogs/nettwits/2004/08/is-ie-really-better
(Note: IE doesn't even display the image, or the alternate content for 
it, so you'll have to fire up a browser that works)

-- 
Lachlan Hunt

http://www.lachy.id.au/
lachlan.hunt at lachy.id.au
Received on Friday, 20 August 2004 01:57:47 UTC

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