Re: Call for Adoption: Region Capture specification

   1. Youenn, I am afraid I did not understand why the proposed document is
   not an appropriate place to file bugs...? Is it required that, should the
   document be rejected, those objections be retained? Is your concern that
   the bugs you file might no longer be reachable to someone auditing the
   WebRTC WG several years down the line?
   2. [While we're debating here, and until the bug is filed somewhere:]
   Region Capture is usable by itself. Web-developers can use it *without*
   Capture Handle. There are multiple methods, but the easiest would beto hope
   self-capture was chosen by the user, call cropTo() optimistically, and see
   cropTo() raise an exception otherwise. Sure, it would all be much more
   *elegant* with Capture Handle, but that should not, IMHO, block adoption.


On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 4:45 PM Harald Alvestrand <hta@google.com> wrote:

> The mediacapture-extensions repo has been used as a dumping ground for
> bugs related to things that were extensions but not W3C documents before.
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 13, 2021 at 9:43 AM Youenn Fablet <youenn@apple.com> wrote:
>
>> I am not sure where I should file these issues given this is a process
>> issue: the proposed document (region capture) cannot be used as is on top
>> of any agreed W3C WG document.
>> If I were to implement Region Capture today, web developers could not use
>> it directly, they would need more than that.
>> This makes it very hard to reason about the proposal, see how much it
>> fits in practice, whether it is valuable to have a generic mechanism...
>>
>> Hence why I think it would be best to work on these preliminary items (in
>> particular capture handle) and reassess the region capture proposal
>> accordingly.
>> Or to merge region capture with capture handle until we have a good
>> understanding of getViewPortMedia.
>>
>> As I said before, I think it is valuable to solve this problem and the
>> WebRTC WG is probably the right place for this to happen.
>> I’ll write some thoughts about how cropping could be done for
>> getDisplayMedia in an already filed issue:
>> https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-screen-share/issues/195.
>>
>> On 10 Dec 2021, at 20:27, Elad Alon <eladalon@google.com> wrote:
>>
>> Youenn, would you mind filing issues
>> <https://github.com/eladalon1983/region-capture/issues> for your
>> concerns so that we might continue the discussion as per the process
>> outlined in Bernard's original email? ("I object to adoption of Region
>> Capture, due to issues filed in open bug <#number>")
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 6:52 PM Tim Panton <tim@pi.pe> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I support adoption of the Region Capture specification as a WEBRTC WG
>>> work item.
>>>
>>> I can see Immediate uses for this spec.
>>>
>>> I do however think that the final version may differ from the current
>>> document  in significant ways.
>>>
>>> Tim.
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