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Re: status of webrtc-quic

From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@mozilla.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:45:47 -0600
To: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>, public-webrtc@w3.org
Message-ID: <d50f47fd-91a9-5f01-2e8f-f8538c26f3a7@mozilla.com>
Harald, with all due respect, that's a weak reply.

Imagine what would happen at another SDO if something like this
occurred. For example, imagine if at the IETF I mistakenly published an
Internet-Draft as draft-ietf-rtcweb-foo instead of draft-saintandre-foo
and the RTCWEB chairs said "we're likely to adopt it anyway, so don't
bother fixing it". That would rightly be perceived as a not-small
process violation for many reasons (IPR compliance, perception of bias,

How many cycles are we talking about to correct this oversight and do
the right thing? Shall I submit a PR to ease the burden on the authors?


On 8/30/18 8:03 AM, Harald Alvestrand wrote:
> The Stockholm interim decided that it wanted more information about the
> use cases that raise the questions for which QUIC may be the answer.
> My personal take is that we're likely to adopt it once we've gotten our
> act together on use cases (we need a QUIC API, and this looks like a
> good start), so my willingness to spend cycles on fixing template issues
> is fairly limited.
> On 08/29/2018 11:18 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> The QUIC API for WebRTC [0] asserts it is an Editor's Draft, which is a
>> spec status [1] reserved for official working group documents. However,
>> as far as I can see, this work item is not listed in the WG charter [2],
>> a call for adoption has not yet been issued on this mailing list, and
>> the summary of decisions from the Stockholm interim [3] indicates that
>> we did not have consensus to adopt.
>> Shouldn't this spec be "unofficial" at this point?
>> And should we have a web platform test in place [4] for something that's
>> unofficial?
>> Peter
>> [0] https://w3c.github.io/webrtc-quic/
>> [1] https://github.com/w3c/respec/wiki/specStatus
>> [2] https://www.w3.org/2018/07/webrtc-charter.html
>> [3] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2018Jun/0191.html
>> [4]
>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/297722ededba1c80e2a8768100129af300f67dbf/webrtc/RTCQuicTransport.https.html

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