- From: Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
- Date: Mon, 02 Sep 2013 11:41:11 +0200
- To: Jan-Ivar Bruaroey <jib@mozilla.com>
- CC: "public-webrtc@w3.org" <public-webrtc@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <52245D37.8000300@alvestrand.no>
This discussion should be on the public-media-capture list. I'll reply there. On 08/31/2013 09:43 AM, Jan-Ivar Bruaroey wrote: > In Firefox, we let users of gUM webpages choose which source to allow > from a subset dictated by the webpage, or choose to allow none. > > I believe this dictated subset is overly narrow when optional gUM > constraints are in play. To illustrate: > > Consider two phones A and B. > > Phone A has both a front camera and a back camera. > Phone B has only a back camera. > > A webpage C has this constraint = { optional: [{ facingMode:"user" > }] } > > Meaning the webpage prefers the front camera, but will work with any > camera. > > Result: > > On Phone A, the webpage user may choose the front camera or nothing. > On Phone B, the webpage user may choose the back camera or nothing. > > I think instead it should be: > > On Phone A, the webpage user may choose the front camera > (preferred), back camera, or nothing. > On Phone B, the webpage user may choose the back camera or nothing. > > Reason: From a permissions standpoint, I argue the user has as right > to withhold knowledge of Phone A's front camera, making it > indistinguishable from Phone B. > > Benefit: Lets a webpage affect which source is the default without > limiting choice. > e.g. lets pages on Firefox for Android default to front camera > without removing back option in dropdown. > > I believe a browser could implement this today without a webpage > knowing (and be blackbox spec-compliant): > > 1. Run the full set of tracks through the algorithm to arrive at the > "preferred" set (like today). > 2. Run discarded tracks through algorithm again, but *individually* > and keep ones that now make it through as "non-preferred". > 3. These tracks are valid from the webpage's point of view (it > doesn't know the size of the set) > > The reason this works is that our (unchanged) core "remove-from-list" > algorithm ignores zero-reducing optional constraints, which makes it > more lenient the smaller the starting set is. > > I'm curious what people think. > > .: Jan-Ivar :. >
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