- From: Tim Panton <thp@westhawk.co.uk>
- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 17:22:23 +0100
- To: Randell Jesup <randell-ietf@jesup.org>
- Cc: "public-webrtc@w3.org" <public-webrtc@w3.org>, Michael Tuexen <tuexen@fh-muenster.de>, Randall Stewart <rrs@lakerest.net>, Salvatore Loreto <salvatore.loreto@ericsson.com>
On 23 Apr 2012, at 17:01, Randell Jesup wrote: > In going over the details for the DataChannel minor protocol and how it works over SCTP, we realized we'll need a 3-way handshake instead of a 2-way. The reason is that an OPEN_RESPONSE sent ordered followed by a data message sent unordered would allow the data message to come in at the other end before the open response, and since we don't know the input-stream -> output-stream mapping until we get the OPEN_RESPONSE, we might not know what to do with it. So we plan to add an ACK message to the protocol to provide the 3-way handshake. > .... > It seems to me that forcing in-order delivery until the handshake is complete is simpler for the user, and only rarely has any impact on the application. The exception might be if you wanted to dump a bunch of sends that were reliable and out-of-order immediately on creation of the channel - and I don't see it being a major issue there - and you can still wait on onopen if you want. > > Recap: #2 is slightly closer to how WebSockets works (though anything coded for WebSockets' onopen behavior would still work in #1), and #2 avoids potential additional buffering in the stack if the OPEN/OPEN_RESPONSE is lost. (If it's not lost, there's really no extra buffering occurring, except maybe in the rare case where we need to increase the maximum number of simultaneous streams.) > > Opinions? Is there any way that the handshake can fail ? If there is, then the apis are significantly different in the way that they report that failure. (Since you don't mention a matching NACK I guess this isn't an issue). A downside of #2 is we need to define what order data gets sent in this case: temp = peer.createDataChannel(..) temp.data_to_send = "I want to send a magic hello string"; temp.onopen = function() { temp.send(temp.data_to_send); }; temp.send("I want to send normal activity"); temp.close(); temp = null; Tim. Tim Panton - Web/VoIP consultant and implementor www.westhawk.co.uk
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