- From: Jan-Ivar Bruaroey via GitHub <sysbot+gh@w3.org>
- Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2024 23:03:26 +0000
- To: public-webrtc-logs@w3.org
I think there's some misunderstanding here. > Forcing the gUM requirement on implementations with persistent permissions makes persistent permissions largely useless, since one of the objectives of persistent permissions is to avoid constant prompts for frequent users of VC applications. 100% agree the objective of persistent permissions is to avoid constant prompts. But users who have persisted permissions won't incur any prompt when a fresh gUM call is made. So how does trimming enumerateDevices ahead of camera and microphone being turned on lead to _"constant prompts"_? > I agree that always prompting might have some privacy benefits, but this comes at the cost of making things more difficult or inconvenient for frequent users of VC applications. 100% agree. > I think this is an area where it is better to let UAs decide the tradeoff that works better for their users. The spec allows UAs to implement persistent permissions, one-time permissions, even both. The purpose of not returning detailed device information without a recent gUM call is twofold: 1. prevent tracking users across websites 2. ensure interop between permission models A website that expects to list devices on pageload won't work in Firefox or Safari. This is a <a href="https://bugzil.la/1923194#c1">not hypothetical</a>. Sadly it seems it's not uncommon to test against a single browser. Both Safari and Firefox let users grant one-time permissions to camera and microphone by default. Even Chrome is <a href="https://developer.chrome.com/blog/one-time-permissions">experimenting</a> with them as well:  -- GitHub Notification of comment by jan-ivar Please view or discuss this issue at https://github.com/w3c/mediacapture-main/issues/1019#issuecomment-2486926547 using your GitHub account -- Sent via github-notify-ml as configured in https://github.com/w3c/github-notify-ml-config
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