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RE: Generated related pages too generic

From: Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2014 15:21:14 +0000
To: Jonathan Garbee <jonathan.garbee@gmail.com>, "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
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Yes, please, let’s fix this.

I can’t remember what the reasoning was, but this was done on purpose when we first set up the templates. I agree that they are overcrowded, but let’s not throw out the baby with the bathwater. Perhaps we can determine a small and useful set of core topics for each area AND have authors/editors determine additional links to specify as well?

My 2 cents.

From: Jonathan Garbee [mailto:jonathan.garbee@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2014 8:04 AM
To: public-webplatform@w3.org
Subject: Re: Generated related pages too generic

How do we make what is automatically generated more accurate though? Without either building/finding an engine that can understand and correlate the content or adding more stuff into the template to help editors put meta-data in that makes it more granular.

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:33 AM, Eliezer Bernart <eliezer.bernart@gmail.com<mailto:eliezer.bernart@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hey Folks!

This is happening because the See Also Section [1] template lists all the pages that are categorized as "HTML" pages [2].

I agree with Garbee, we can't choose which links will be displayed when the template auto generate the list, so we can have a lot of unrelated things.The same is happening in other pages that also have this section, CSS pages for instance [3].

I also agree that manual related links will be way more effective and accurate.

But it's good to keep in mind that removing the automatic listing will affect all the pages that are using this section.

Maybe instead of removing the section we could make the topics more accurate, and doing this we also could have better suggestions.

Hope that helps.

[1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/Template:See_Also_Section

[2] http://docs.webplatform.org/w/index.php?title=Special:SearchByProperty&offset=0&limit=500&property=Topic+Cluster&value=HTML

[3] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/vertical-align



On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan.garbee@gmail.com<mailto:jonathan.garbee@gmail.com>> wrote:
The related pages links that are generated by selecting the checkboxes under "Topic Clusters" of the "See Also" section when editing are too general/broad. For example, on the disabled attribute [1] page I am seeing,
* HTMLAudioElement
* Pointer Events Primer
* List
* height
* !doctype
* dl
* head

etc. A bunch of almost completely unrelated things. Is there a reason that these are generated?

I think it would be best to remove this generation of links in favor of simply having editors manually cross-link related things. That way we get higher-quality links that are known to be related in some way to the content at hand.


[1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/html/attributes/disabled

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