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Re: CSS - External Examples

From: Mike Sierra <letmespellitoutforyou@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 11:21:38 -0400
Message-ID: <CAECD240kGn_cv9xLJj-LRK9kuNm-0b_EzytF07uLfD6gCEH0bA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com>
Cc: Eliezer Bernart <eliezer.bernart@gmail.com>, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>, Julee <julee@adobe.com>, Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org>, List WebPlatform public <public-webplatform@w3.org>
I have a few I may be able to port over, but can you remind me if
code.webplatform.org can host static dependencies such as images & videos?

--Mike S




On Tue, Oct 22, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Julee Burdekin <jburdeki@adobe.com> wrote:

> I'm thinking the next step is to see which ones can be ported over to
> code.wbplatform.org, versus those that need to be replaced with original,
> new examples. Then, call for new samples.
>
> I can take a stab at porting over the ones that can be moved without a
> license conflict, unless someone else wants to do it or take some of them.
>
> J
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 22, 2013, at 3:24 AM, "Eliezer Bernart" <eliezer.bernart@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey Folks,
>
> Today I had some free time, so in a talk with Julee, offered my help to
> find manually the pages with those external references.
>
> After check all the pages listed at properties's page [1], I made a
> spreadsheet with all the external links that I saw, classifying by their
> origin. In the final of the search were listed 25 properties pages, the
> spreadsheet can be found on the link [2].
>
> I hope that this list may help.
>
> Thanks!
>
> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties
> [2]
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au8uhTttAocYdFU3Mk1IMjFTR2pTYnNkQ1dvdFFFYXc&usp=sharing
>
>
>
> Eliezer
>
> @eliezerbernart
> eliezerb
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Eliot Graff <Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com>wrote:
>
>>  Hi All.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Julee mentions these below, but I want to be specific for the MSDN
>> content. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> For the topics that came from MSDN and/or which link to an MSDN sample,
>> we (Microsoft) donated the content with the intent that the sample could be
>> used outright in the Webplatform Docs pages. A few things:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> **·       **If the page links to a live code example on
>> http://samples.msdn.microsoft.com, as in the CSS behavior property [1],
>> the code should be hosted on http://code.webplatform.org/, per the
>> instructions in Code sample best practices [2] and the link changed. ****
>>
>> **·       **Some of the code samples that were donated from MSDN were
>> written using HTML4.01 best practices (such as all caps for element names),
>> and therefore you should examine the samples to make sure they do not need
>> updating. ****
>>
>> **·       **Also, because of changes to the web platform, some samples
>> may be broken. You should therefore test the sample (just run it) to make
>> sure it works as expected.****
>>
>> **·       **When we converted the MSDN pages to MediaWiki content, we
>> migrated the syntax blocks into the pages, and then the MediaWiki template
>> created a syntax block. Any page that has the two syntax blocks is a flag
>> that the page can use editing (and the syntax block after the compatibility
>> tables is redundant).****
>>
>> **·       **Our template structure inserts related links based on the
>> Topics and Topic clusters that are selected in editing. In addition, there
>> may be a few or many related links that were ported over from MSDN and
>> which point to MSDN. Those will appear in external links and manual links
>> when you edit, and you can remove them.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Renoir mentioned that we have discussed creating a script to identify
>> pages that still have these issues. Until then, we don’t have a systematic
>> way of finding these issues. But the right people are working on it.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hope this helps,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Eliot ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> [1] http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/behavior****
>>
>> [2]
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/WPD:Manual_Of_Style/Sample_best_practices
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Julee [mailto:julee@adobe.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 21, 2013 10:01 AM
>> *To:* Renoir Boulanger; Eliezer Bernart
>> *Cc:* List WebPlatform public
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: CSS - External Examples****
>>
>>  ** **
>>
>> Hi, Renoir & Eliezer:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I was waiting to see if some others were going to respond to this first,
>> and still hope folks chime in here.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> My opinion is:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> * If the example is from W3Schools, or another site that may have a
>> different license than ours (CC-by), then that samples should be replaced.
>> (We can link to that sample in the "See Also" section, "External links"
>> subsection.)****
>>
>> * If the example is from the contributor's personal website or other code
>> pen, we can ask if they want to move it, but if we get no response, I think
>> it's fine to keep it.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> J****
>>
>> ----------------------------****
>>
>> julee@adobe.com****
>>
>> @adobejulee****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From: *Renoir Boulanger <renoir@w3.org>
>> *Date: *Sunday, October 20, 2013 6:41 PM
>> *To: *Eliezer Bernart <eliezerbernart@gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *WebPlatform Public List <public-webplatform@w3.org>, julee <
>> julee@adobe.com>
>> *Subject: *Re: CSS - External Examples****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Hey Eliezer,
>>
>> @Julee, you might want to chime in on the topic.
>>
>> This is a nice catch, actually. You are right, Eliezer, we have many
>> pages that also uses examples from other sources such as MSDN and we have a
>> pending issue for that matter.
>>
>> Mostly:
>> - list code samples who are in the pages and not in the
>> code.webplatform.org
>> - flag ones that shows old ways of working (e.g. tags in uppercase,
>> tagsoup, etc)
>>
>> And rework those in particular.
>>
>> A task that we discussed in a meeting was to create a database query and
>> get those pages.
>>
>> We should have such task created in project.webplatform.org. If there is
>> none yet; create a task (Infrastructure) and assign it to me.
>>
>> It has to be worked on and the task just might have had fallen through
>> cracks.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Renoir Boulanger | Developer operations engineer
>> W3C | webplatform.org
>>
>> http://w3.org/people/#renoirbhttps://renoirboulanger.com ✪ @renoirb
>> ~
>>
>> Eliezer Bernart <eliezerbernart@gmail.com> wrote:****
>>
>> Hey Folks!****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Now that the CSS properties are almost complete I would like to say
>> congrats for the great step forward to finish this journey.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> For the last couple of days, reviewing some examples in older CSS
>> properties (probably made before code.webplatform.org), I found some
>> examples which the "View live example" link points to an external
>> reference, sometimes to a domain from the user who wrote the example, or
>> some examples of an affiliated page, other times to an external website not
>> affiliated to the Webplatform.org project.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Examples:****
>>
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/background-image****
>>
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/zoom****
>>
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/text-decoration****
>>
>> http://docs.webplatform.org/wiki/css/properties/text-overflow-ellipsis***
>> *
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> In most of the cases, those examples (made by the users) or imported from
>> other websites are really helpful for beginners, so my questions are:
>>
>> 1. Should we move them to the code.webplatform.org ?
>> 2. Can we track all the external live examples and check if they are
>> under the Webplatform.org domain?****
>>
>> 3. All the properties should have a live example?****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Eliezer****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> @eliezerbernart****
>>
>> eliezerb****
>>
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