- From: PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com>
- Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:22:12 +0200
- To: Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>
- Cc: "public-webplatform@w3.org" <public-webplatform@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CABc02_LFJ-0stgjVDLPW_2ApOz4r=y2wig8HWOBSu0f96HYqTQ@mail.gmail.com>
I think most people would assume the lifetime to be "for the session" (meaning, until they close the browser). (Unless you are using Chrome and then session cookies are kept, if I am not mistaken) ☆*PhistucK* On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>wrote: > You can say how long a session cookie is good for. Depending on the system > is is easily manipulated to boot. If MediaWiki or some other config in the > system decides they should only be good for an hour or two, that is fine. > I'm not sure how MW is setup by default in terms of session lifespan. > > For instance, with one system I use there is a simple configuration option > I can use to set a number. That number denotes how many days the session > cookie the software gives out is good for, I can also make them all (HTTPS > or not) die on session exit by setting a 0. Same thing could apply to MW > (and probably does.) > > I'll try to setup a MW install on a test VM in a day or two and have a > look at the default config and see if there isn't an option to modify the > lifetime. > > -Garbee > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 1:58 PM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A very low lifespan? is it not simply a session cookie? >> >> ☆*PhistucK* >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>wrote: >> >>> The new system, I'll get the infrastructure project configured in about >>> 15 minutes if it isn't already. >>> >>> Before filing again, do make sure that you are using the "remember me >>> for 180 days" checkbox. If you don't then the cookie does have a very low >>> lifespan. I think we actually should increase it to a few days. >>> >>> If there is something around not related to the actual lifetime of the >>> cookie, then that is prime for reporting. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -Garbee >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Garbee, >>>> >>>> Apparently the infamous Session Bug somehow got closed in Bugzilla. But >>>> it is still a big problem. I need to re-file two bugs related to this. Do I >>>> use the new system or the old Bugzilla? >>>> >>>> +Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me>wrote: >>>> >>>>> The Content component import is finished! You should now be able to >>>>> use the Content project [1] within the new solution to keep track of >>>>> things. Once again, if you have any issues using the new install or have >>>>> any questions, you can post them in the Project Management System project >>>>> [2] or get in touch with me any other way you can and I can help you out. >>>>> >>>>> Some things are currently left in the component on Bugzilla. This is >>>>> because they are going to be put into different projects which don't exist >>>>> yet. So hang tight if you want to talk about one that is left sitting. >>>>> >>>>> -Garbee >>>>> >>>>> [1] http://project.webplatform.org/content >>>>> [2] http://project.webplatform.org/prmg >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Eliot Graff < >>>>> Eliot.Graff@microsoft.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the warning. ;-)**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Jonathan Garbee [mailto:jonathan@garbee.me] >>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:36 PM >>>>>> *To:* public-webplatform@w3.org >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: Project Management update.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> In a few minutes I am going to begin importing the Content component >>>>>> bugs from Bugzilla over to the new system. The way imports are going to >>>>>> work is I will import and bring over the initial description of an issue. >>>>>> If there are any other comments, I am going to do my best to bring the >>>>>> content from them over as well (on some that may have a lot of >>>>>> conversation, we will see. But I think most of those are resolved now.) As >>>>>> the issues are ported over, I am going to close them as "RESOLVED" and >>>>>> "MOVED" while also linking over to the new issue in our project management >>>>>> system. **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> So, to anyone who is signed up for the bugzilla mailing list, get >>>>>> ready for inbox spamming! ;P**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> -Garbee**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 7:18 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> >>>>>> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that is discussion for another thread/time. Right now it >>>>>> really doesn't matter since our install doesn't work with OpenID.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:19 AM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> Once MediaWiki supports OpenID, I see no reason to have any other >>>>>> login mechanism. We want to advocate open systems and secure practices, >>>>>> which is what OpenID is about, unless I am mistaken. >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ☆*PhistucK***** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> >>>>>> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> That has been planned. The module for it needs some patches before >>>>>> we can use it. That is one of the bugs being imported into the new system. >>>>>> ;)**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> It would only go one-way, so once we get support for having TBG talk >>>>>> to the MW user base, we wouldn't use the OpenID system anymore since those >>>>>> users wouldn't be in the MW DB. Unless, if people signed up through TBG it >>>>>> would go into that DB, but I would be interested to see how that goes >>>>>> seeing how TBG stores the OpenID data.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 6:07 AM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> And what about making MediaWiki have OpenID support? >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ☆*PhistucK***** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> >>>>>> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> The system uses its own user DB. There is no module for letting it >>>>>> work with a MediaWiki DB. It does have OpenID support, so this mitigates a >>>>>> bit of the frustrations with needing another account. Getting it to work >>>>>> with our current user DB is something to have done at some point.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> -Garbee**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:42 AM, PhistucK <phistuck@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> How do I log in?**** >>>>>> >>>>>> My docs.webplatform.org username and password do not work. Is this >>>>>> intentional? Will this be fixed?**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for working on this! >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ☆*PhistucK***** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> >>>>>> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> So, this is about to get inceptiony. Due to a bug in the current >>>>>> ACL setup for TBG, the "General" settings actually don't work as they >>>>>> should. :P So each project's permissions need to be manually set, which >>>>>> makes creating them more time consuming then I originally estimated. It >>>>>> won't be too bad though, just need to take them on one at a time compared >>>>>> to rushing through creating them all at once as initially planned.*** >>>>>> * >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Now, time for inception. I went ahead (completely without asking >>>>>> anyone) and setup a project for tracking issues with the bug genie install >>>>>> (yes, you can burn me at the stake for not asking, but let's do that after >>>>>> it is all configured.) It is public and located here ( >>>>>> http://project.webplatform.org/prmg .) The "prmg" in the URL is for >>>>>> "Project Management" and the actual title is "Project Management System." >>>>>> So, for any issues or questions about using the system, just post in there. >>>>>> There is one issue in particular currently which is about the import of the >>>>>> current projects located here ( >>>>>> http://project.webplatform.org/prmg/issues/PRMG-2 .) It has the list >>>>>> I am going to import the current projects in. Please comment if you have >>>>>> any suggestions or problems with the import order.**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks,**** >>>>>> >>>>>> -Garbee**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Scott Rowe <scottrowe@google.com> >>>>>> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> Looking good, Garbee!**** >>>>>> >>>>>> +Scott**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 4:19 PM, Jonathan Garbee <jonathan@garbee.me> >>>>>> wrote:**** >>>>>> >>>>>> So, here we are. The Bug Genie is installed at >>>>>> http://project.webplatform.org ! It is currently empty, so don't go >>>>>> rushing over just yet. I'm finishing up a project that I have been caught >>>>>> up in for about a month now within the next two days. So, Tuesday or >>>>>> Wednesday will be when I begin configuring our TBG install. **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm estimating that should take me about two work days to get done >>>>>> and test, perhaps three if I end up getting confused in the ACL (which is >>>>>> pretty easy to do.) After that I will begin importing the issues from the >>>>>> current Bugzilla repo into the new system. This will be done one component >>>>>> per day to try and not burn myself out in the move and to try and do some >>>>>> extra cleanup as well. As each component's move is completed I will update >>>>>> the list to know to start using TBG for those issues. As far as the order >>>>>> of the move, I will email out the order they will be done the day I start, >>>>>> needless to say Content and Infrastructure are on the top of my list. >>>>>> **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Probably the biggest question, support/documentation for TBG. This, >>>>>> isn't a good answer I'm afraid. There is very little documentation on TBG's >>>>>> actual usage. So at first, it really is just ask me any questions you have >>>>>> via any method you can (coming to my house excluded, my dogs like to bark >>>>>> at new visitors and it drives me nuts.) I will work on documenting the >>>>>> actual usage of TBG first for us. Once that documentation is completed I >>>>>> will work on documenting administration aspects of usage. **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> If anyone has any specific questions about this process, please just >>>>>> let me know. **** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your time,**** >>>>>> >>>>>> -Garbee**** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>>> ** ** >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
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