Re: w3c payment processors

Thank you so much David!

It is good to know this but for now it, whatever 'it' turns out to be,
would have to be something in Hong Kong.

p.


On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 9:55 PM, David Nicol <davidnicol@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm managing an abandoned house within the Google Fiber area that the
> equipment could be located in.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 7:45 AM, Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I'd be interested to know that if you hypothetically had USD$600k and the
> > opportunity to design and build out an open testing lab for say proto
> > web-payment processing and smart contract simulations would any of you be
> > interested in helping to specify what this might look like?
> >
> > p.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:20 PM, Melvin Carvalho <
> melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 12 March 2015 at 12:56, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> <tangential comment>
> >>>
> >>> RE: "I also have some bitcoin "testnet" coins that could be used to
> test
> >>> settlement.  They are worthless coins but otherwise will all the same
> >>> properties of btc."
> >>>
> >>> Spotted at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Testnet  "Testnet2 was just the
> >>> first testnet reset with a different genesis block, because people were
> >>> starting to trade testnet coins for real money."
> >>>
> >>> The difference between one and the other is, um...
> >>>
> >>> Here's a potentially useful benchmark for the "real" BTC:
> >>> http://www.numbeo.com/common/motivation_and_methodology.jsp
> >>>
> >>> ... more on this coming soon, at a very generic level, here:
> >>>
> >>>
> https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/Use_Cases_Task_Force#Choosing_the_Attributes_of_Price
> >>> Drafting under way.
> >>>
> >>> </tangential comment>
> >>
> >>
> >> Most people use testnet3
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Joseph Potvin
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:56 AM, Melvin Carvalho
> >>> <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12 March 2015 at 05:21, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> To clarify a bit more...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 03/06/2015 04:19 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> >>>>> > I would like to implement a payment processor in line with the w3c
> >>>>> > payments spec
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keep in mind that there is no such thing as a "W3C Payments Spec"
> right
> >>>>> now. I know you know that Melvin, but others on the list might get
> the
> >>>>> wrong idea.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are Web Payments /Community Group/ specifications, many of them
> >>>>> incomplete or in need of updating, but with implementations.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There are no Web Payments /Interest Group/ or /Working Group/
> >>>>> specifications yet. We're working through the details now of use
> cases,
> >>>>> roadmap, and Web Payments Architecture (Payment Agent). Expect First
> >>>>> Public Working Drafts of those in the coming months.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > I was wondering if anyone else is working on something similar
> >>>>> > because I'd like to test payments from one processor to another,
> and
> >>>>> > it doesnt seem clear how to do that right now.  Perhaps with some
> >>>>> > running code the problem would be easier to break down.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is currently no mechanism to do cross-payment processor
> clearing.
> >>>>> Payment Processors could use Ripple, centralized continuous clearing,
> >>>>> or
> >>>>> some other blockchain-like mechanism to clear payments between each
> >>>>> other. Not having this spec'd right now is problematic, and we really
> >>>>> do
> >>>>> need to sort out the details here.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> > Just trying to establish tentatively if anyone may be willing to
> help
> >>>>> > test in the short to medium term.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> +1, willing to test... but before we can do that, we need to settle
> on
> >>>>> the protocol (which is a non-trivial undertaking).
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> +1 to everything
> >>>>
> >>>> My hope was that through running code it might be easier to come to a
> >>>> consensus.
> >>>>
> >>>> Perhaps we could have a wiki page for people that would like to test,
> >>>> similar to :
> >>>>
> >>>> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/ldpwg/raw-file/default/tests/reports/ldp.html
> >>>>
> >>>> I think we may need a clearing system like ripple or ACH
> >>>>
> >>>> I also have some bitcoin "testnet" coins that could be used to test
> >>>> settlement.  They are worthless coins but otherwise will all the same
> >>>> properties of btc.
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -- manu
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> >>>>> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> >>>>> blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments
> >>>>> http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> There is a lot more low hanging fruit when you're tall.
>