Re: OpenBazaar: Decentralized markets for online trade

I realize I am off topic now and I apologize for that.

I just am not very happy with the reply I sent to Steven and it's eating at me.

The War on Drugs is a topic that upsets me very much, because it is frustrating to see not just your loved ones, but all of humanity, cutting at its wrists like this. You want to shake them and tell them to stop, that it's just making things worse, that there are better ways to solve problems, etc.

And in that process you can come across as an inelegant ass. So, I apologize for jumping on you and the list like that.

Here is some context as well as some citations (because I learned that not everyone understands the extent of the harm that the War on Drugs is causing. TLDR: it's worse than the Holocaust):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7656095

I will now shut up, as this list is about web payments, not drug war rants.

- Greg

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On Mar 6, 2015, at 1:18 PM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote:

> (P.S. Sorry Steven if misunderstood what you meant by Pandora's box.)
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> On Mar 6, 2015, at 12:50 PM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote:
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>> Sorry to jump in, but someone mentioned OpenBazaar, drugs, and Pandora's box right next to each other.
>> 
>> Let me point out that we've already opened Pandora's box. OpenBazaar is going to close it back shut.
>> 
>> The world we experience every day is one where millions of people (over the course of a few years) have died because our governments decided to open the Pandora's box of prohibition.
>> 
>> We should all welcome the day when we will all be safer thanks to the end of prohibition.
>> 
>> Let's watch our rhetoric and not allow the rhetoric of politicians to infiltrate it and distort reality, truth, etc.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Greg Slepak
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>> On Mar 6, 2015, at 12:44 PM, Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net> wrote:
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>>> On 3/6/15 2:29 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>>>> It depends, notarization isn't for free and explicit paying for such
>>>> services probably won't be terribly popular.
>>> 
>>> Popular to who? To you?  ;-)
>>> 
>>> AFAI understand, OpenBazaar is attempting a revolutionary worldwide system that might be able to do things that have never existed (but have been dreamed by many, including on this list).
>>> 
>>> If they can present a system that does these things -- including close to zero transaction costs in an industry that takes 3% commonly and skims another 2% or so behind the scenes for currency exchange -- wouldn't there be room for a thriving notary business that could charge, say, half a %, and still keep many users happy?
>>> 
>>> Plus, it occurs to me that for digital sales -- downloading digital works of science, art, music, software -- the notary might not be as important. IMO people have always traditionally been taking a calculated risk with buying information, based on various combinations of trust and previews. It appears that their web of trust could be part of this tradition.
>>> 
>>> Interesting that they're moving head-on towards a confrontation with governments, by saying "Yes, you can sell drugs with it. You can do whatever you like with this, we just made it, we're not responsible".
>>> 
>>> Pandora's box...?
>>> 
>>> Steven Rowat
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Received on Friday, 6 March 2015 21:53:09 UTC