- From: Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 16:20:18 +0800
- To: Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org>
- Cc: Mountie Lee <mountie@paygate.net>, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAM7BtUqa-3DS9fNxh167ARNQ-ghpL-_Tda3sR4UcoCYz3KH7sQ@mail.gmail.com>
Thank you again. I fully agree. p. On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:59 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org> wrote: > Hi Pindar, > > We are on the exact same line. Given that W3C is not yet a place where a > big part of the finance industry is, we will ensure that before taking any > decision, a critical mass is engaged. However, to be entirely honest, I > tend to think that the best windows to consider membership is now. I don't > want to be in a catch-22 position where some organizations want to see the > type of work being developed before joining, and the group waiting for > organizations to join before starting any work. I think it is too early to > see what will happen, and we will have a better view at TPAC > > BEst > steph > > > Le 23/09/2014 09:53, Pindar Wong a écrit : > >> Thank you Steph for this thoughtful consideration. >> >> I would not want any new member to the W3C (in particular banks, payment >> processors and other financial institutions, say from the Asia Pacific >> or elsewhere) to feel disadvantaged at not being able to participate >> fully in any decision making next month pending procedural inertia or >> misunderstanding. >> >> Regards, >> >> Pindar >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org >> <mailto:boyera@w3.org>> wrote: >> >> Hello Pindar, >> You are absolutely right in the fact that the distance between the >> group announce and the first f2f is short for new members to join. >> I believe we can be flexible and have W3C members attending the F2F >> even if they are just at the beginning of the W3C membership >> application. We have a series of members in that state, that are >> ready to join provided the group is created. >> However, obviously if the attendance to the first face2face is low, >> then we should seriously consider another event in the near future >> like at the beginning of the year perhaps, or even before. This is >> something we will be able to evaluate by the end of october. >> >> Best >> Steph >> >> Le 23/09/2014 09:09, Pindar Wong a écrit : >> >> Dear Stephane, >> >> Thank you for your efforts and for your clarification regarding >> the >> process. Especially regarding the approval (or not) of the >> formation of >> a Web Payment Interest Group (IG) by October 16th. The >> extension of >> any early-bird registration would be most welcome by some and I >> am >> sensitive to the optics w.r.t. an on-going vote. >> >> Nevertheless, please do bear in mind that any potential new >> members to >> the W3C, who might join, if and only if, the new Interest Group is >> formed, might well like the option to formally participate in any >> inaugural meeting of a newly formed IG -- clearly that will be an >> important event. Thus having some placeholder dates and venue, >> pending >> outcome of a vote, would very much assist in managing all parties >> expectations and would, I hope, not be controversial. >> >> I look forward to the outcome of the W3C Membership and >> Director's >> decision. Even though, in my case, I regret that it is exceedingly >> doubtful that I could attend on such short notice. >> >> p. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 2:36 PM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org >> <mailto:boyera@w3.org> >> <mailto:boyera@w3.org <mailto:boyera@w3.org>>> wrote: >> >> Hi Mountie, All, >> >> W3C Web Payments IG is going to meet at TPAC if the group is >> approved by W3C membership and W3C director by October 16. >> At this >> point in time we have received only positive reviews, so >> i'm confident. >> I'm working on extending the early-bird registration till >> October 23 >> for members of Web Payments IG to give a week after the >> announcement >> of the group for people to register. I will confirm this in >> the >> announcement of the launch of the group. >> >> Best >> Stephane >> >> >> Le 23/09/2014 06:58, Mountie Lee a écrit : >> >> I think >> listing the schedule at >> http://www.w3.org/community/____webpayments/ >> <http://www.w3.org/community/__webpayments/> >> <http://www.w3.org/community/__webpayments/ >> <http://www.w3.org/community/webpayments/>> is enough. >> >> that is also part of w3c page and the first place I >> were try to find >> schedule. >> >> regards >> mountie. >> >> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:48 PM, Manu Sporny >> <msporny@digitalbazaar.com >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com> >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>> >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar. >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.>____com >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.__com >> <mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com>>>> wrote: >> >> On 09/22/2014 11:41 PM, Pindar Wong wrote: >> > I'm sorry Manu but this meeting that you're >> referring to >> below is NOT >> > on the schedule. >> >> Yes, this is causing a lot of confusion. I'm >> currently >> trying to get W3C >> to at least list the meeting on the schedule, with >> the >> caveat that it >> may not happen if W3C member companies vote the Web >> Payments Activity >> down. Even if that happens, I plan to run an >> unconference >> session on it >> and the Credentials work during W3C TPAC. >> >> Stephane has mentioned the meeting on this public >> mailing list: >> >> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/____Public/public-____ >> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/____0016.html >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/__Public/public-__ >> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/__0016.html> >> >> >> >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/__Public/public-__ >> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/__0016.html >> <http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public- >> webpaymentsigcharter/2014Sep/0016.html>> >> >> W3C is not supposed to list meetings that have not >> yet been >> approved by >> the W3C membership (the vote is currently >> ongoing). I'm >> guessing that >> this is because some of the W3C membership may get >> cranky >> if W3C does >> something that hasn't been approved by them. >> Unfortunately, >> that >> approval will come on October 16th at the >> earliest, which >> is well past >> the early-bird registration deadline. >> >> > I guess people do things differently, but is >> there a >> venue or is >> > that also up in the air too? >> >> The venue will be W3C TPAC, but currently you >> either have >> to be a W3C >> member to attend, or show promise at becoming a >> member in >> the future. >> >> -- manu >> >> -- >> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, >> G+: +Manu >> Sporny) >> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >> blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments >> http://manu.sporny.org/2014/____dawn-of-web-payments/ >> <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/__dawn-of-web-payments/> >> <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/__dawn-of-web-payments/ >> <http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/>> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mountie Lee >> >> PayGate >> CTO, CISSP >> Tel : +82 2 2140 2700 <tel:%2B82%202%202140%202700> >> <tel:%2B82%202%202140%202700> >> E-Mail : mountie@paygate.net >> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net >> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net>> >> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net >> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net >> <mailto:mountie@paygate.net>>> >> >> >> -- >> Stephane Boyera stephane@w3.org <mailto:stephane@w3.org> >> <mailto:stephane@w3.org <mailto:stephane@w3.org>> >> W3C +33 (0) 6 73 84 87 27 >> <tel:%2B33%20%280%29%206%2073%2084%2087%2027> >> <tel:%2B33%20%280%29%206%2073%__2084%2087%2027> >> BP 93 >> F-06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, >> France >> >> >> >> -- >> Stephane Boyera stephane@w3.org <mailto:stephane@w3.org> >> W3C +33 (0) 6 73 84 87 27 <tel:%2B33%20%280%29%206%2073% >> 2084%2087%2027> >> BP 93 >> F-06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, >> France >> >> >> > -- > Stephane Boyera stephane@w3.org > W3C +33 (0) 6 73 84 87 27 > BP 93 > F-06902 Sophia Antipolis Cedex, > France >
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