- From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail.com>
- Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 14:04:11 -0500
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Web Payments <public-webpayments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CACvcBVrFmENtc_L6=_Q4aAe1FHcN2iQUU2Vaaasi6bauri-Nng@mail.gmail.com>
I think there is a difference between the web as Tim Berners-Lee envisioned it and the web as it is (or perceived). To be honest, until a couple of years ago I did not even know Tim Berners-Lee existed, but I knew that the web did. In the 90's I knew about AOL because they provided internet, and I wanted it because of all the cool things provided with it. In the late 90's I learned about Linux because there was a smart kid that used it and was enthusiastic about it. Unfortunately I did not use it till later because I was a bit afraid of tux the penguin, and I did not think I was good at math, nor did I believe I was smart enough to figure it out. In college some kids said that I should try out Facebook. It looked impressive, I was excited to reconnect with old friends, and I had no clue how it might work. I think it is all about perception. Once people see linked data for what it can do (and are enthusiastic about it), and believe they can use it, then they will. -Brent Shambaugh Website: bshambaugh.org On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:35 AM, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 19 September 2014 03:49, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote: > >> On 09/14/2014 04:58 PM, Kingsley Idehen wrote: >> > It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your post above) >> > to infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of the Web. The >> > absolute fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been the core of >> > the Web since it was an idea [1][2]. >> >> Well, that's one of the points I make at the beginning of the talk. I >> also mention that saying "Linked Data" is part of the core of the web is >> a bit of a cop-out. Web developers don't understand that, and until they >> do, I don't consider Linked Data as a core part of the Web in the same >> way that HTML, Javascript, and HTTP is a core part of the Web. I was not >> just coming at this from a technical standpoint, I was also making a >> statement about the general Web developer community's understanding of >> Linked Data. >> > > Not only is linked data part of the web, it was the *motivation* for the > web. > > From day 1 the proposal back in 1989 was of an information system where > data is linked: > > http://www.w3.org/History/1989/proposal.html > > We have a lost generation of web 2.0 developers that mostly havent seen or > understood the implications of that document. > > But saying that linked data is not in the core of the web is a bit like > saying anonymous functions are not in the core of JavaScript. Now it's > true that 10 years ago most JS developers would not realize the elegance of > the language. But Douglas Cockroft came along and blew that all away with > his "JavaScript, the good parts". > > There are different ways to convey the message, but I think it's hard to > dispute that linked data is core to the web. > > >> >> > Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible, indefensible, and at >> > best draconian narrative that has forever tainted the letters "R-D-F" >> > . And HttpRange-14 as a censorship tool (based on its ridiculous >> > history), that blurs fixing this horrible state of affairs. >> >> +1 >> >> -- manu >> >> -- >> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) >> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >> blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments >> http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/ >> >> >
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