Re: Fwd: Persona 2015 through 2016

On 31 October 2014 07:32, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2014-10-30 21:12, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
>
>> FYI: 'If we are not making meaningful progress or do not have a credible
>> plan on that date, then Mozilla will announce an intent to end-of-life
>> Persona, with a server turnoff date of June 30th, 2016.'
>>
>
> IMO, the underlying problem is that the web develops very slowly compared
> to app-environments like Android and iOS.  You simply can't build a
> credible mobile banking application using web technology!
>

The web develops slowly compared with google / apple, because they have
more funding and more developers.

I dont think you can necessarily make an inference on the technology.

If the web had a team of 10 dedicated people working on identity, it could
make a big difference.  As things stand it's 2-3 working in their spare
time.

>
>
> "<keygen>" is almost 20 years old and so is the foundation it builds on.
>
> Anders
>
>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: *Dan Callahan* <dcallahan@mozilla.com <mailto:dcallahan@mozilla.com
>> >>
>> Date: 30 October 2014 20:36
>> Subject: Persona 2015 through 2016
>> To: dev-identity@lists.mozilla.org <mailto:dev-identity@lists.mozilla.org
>> >
>>
>>
>> Hey all,
>>
>> Last week, Gene Wood (former Persona ops) and I met again with Mark Mayo
>> (VP of Services) to discuss Persona's longer-term future at Mozilla.
>>
>> Over the past year, Firefox Accounts (FxA) has drifted toward a
>> traditional (OAuth) model, and away from possible synergies with BrowserID
>> or Persona. This puts Persona in a bind: work on FxA will not benefit
>> Persona, and vice versa. MoCo's organizational priorities remain the same:
>> developers are focusing on FxA, and that focus is unlikely to shift to
>> Persona in the foreseeable future.
>>
>> This isn't sustainable for Persona, nor for Mozilla. If we, as a
>> community, want to see Persona succeed, then we must work together and
>> remove Persona's reliance on Mozilla for the centralized fallback.
>>
>> Here's the deal:
>>
>> 1. Persona will continue to receive its current level of support
>> (operations, security, monitoring, etc.) from Mozilla through 2015.
>>
>> 2. We have until June 30th, 2015 to return to a trajectory of growth,
>> external contribution, sustainability, and independence from the
>> Mozilla-operated fallback IdP.
>>
>> 3. If we are not making meaningful progress or do not have a credible
>> plan on that date, then Mozilla will announce an intent to end-of-life
>> Persona, with a server turnoff date of June 30th, 2016.
>>
>> Now, it's not all doom and gloom. Persona was designed to be
>> decentralized. The only thing at risk is a single, centralized fallback.
>> Which we needed to get rid of anyway.
>>
>> 1. If we make it easier to self-host Persona, we remove the dependency on
>> Mozilla's fallback and we're golden.
>>
>> 2. If a compatible custodian steps up and commits engineering and
>> operational resources to Persona, we remove the dependency on Mozilla's
>> fallback and we're golden.
>>
>> Further, if we can articulate a specific set of engineering tasks that
>> need to be accomplished to make a transition to a specific custodian
>> feasible, then Mozilla is willing to temporarily commit engineers to
>> Persona in order to make that happen.
>>
>> If you believe in Persona or if your organization relies on Persona, now
>> is the time to step up. Our combined effort over the next 8 months will
>> determine Persona's fate in 2016.
>>
>> Our immediate goals remain the same: enable new contributions through
>> better documentation, and split up the repository into independent modules
>> for ease of maintenance. Look for another email regarding specific bugs to
>> tackle soon.
>>
>> We're kicking Persona out of the nest.
>>
>> It's time for it to fly.
>>
>> Best,
>> -Callahad
>>
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