- From: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>
- Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2014 06:59:34 -0500
- To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
- Cc: Kumar McMillan <kmcmillan@mozilla.com>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKcXiSqp4jPA5_5S-FJJUTbYpZ-pZrHKnfgFSaZD8BOCnTtHxg@mail.gmail.com>
RE: "Does anyone know if MasterCard actually presented a proposal and if so, presented it publicly? I'm curious to see what it was" These contacts are provided at the bottom of the quoted media release: MasterCard Seth Eisen 914-249-3153 <seth_eisen@mastercard.com> Visa Inc. Elvira Swanson 650-432-8352 <elswanso@visa.com> American ExpressNina Chang 212-640-2851 <nina.y.chang@aexp.com> Should any of us ask, or should it me Manu? Joseph On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 4:29 AM, Anders Rundgren < anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2014-01-17 21:44, Kumar McMillan wrote: > > RE: > https://newsroom.mastercard.com/press-releases/mastercard-visa-and-american-express-propose-new-global-standard-to-make-online-and-mobile-shopping-simpler-and-safer/ > > > > "The proposed framework has incorporated the input of many stakeholders, > particularly card issuers and merchants. Over the coming weeks, the > framework will also be presented to other partners and independent industry > bodies…" > > > > Does anyone know if MasterCard actually presented a proposal and if so, > presented it publicly? I'm curious to see what it was. > > > > I think adopting a token standard would be a small but important step > toward more secure web payments. It seems easy to achieve given its > relatively small scope. Especially nice is that it doesn't depend on any > other payment asset definition or verification protocol or user identity > spec, etc. It would specify how to process a transaction and nothing else, > thus, easy to wedge into existing buy flows. > > From: > > https://newsroom.mastercard.com/press-releases/mastercard-visa-and-american-express-propose-new-global-standard-to-make-online-and-mobile-shopping-simpler-and-safer > > "Once a standard is agreed to and implemented, issuers, merchants or > digital wallet providers would be able to request a token so that when an > account holder initiates an online or mobile transaction, the token – and > not the traditional card account number" > > To me this looks like a considerably upgraded payment system. > > Although the words "Innovation" and "Banks" in the same line doesn't parse > in my brain, this may actually be more useful than "Secure Code" and > similar nonsense systems launched in the past. I'm quite curious on how > this token is created and its relation to the client platform. > > Anders > > > > > > A tokenization standard could even go hand in hand with request > autocomplete. > > > > > > On Jan 17, 2014, at 9:46 AM, Anders Rundgren < > anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Thanx Joseph, you raised many interesting questions. > >> > >> One was if this is "Open Standardization". This is IMO a huge problem > for the traditional payment industry and essentially everything involving > banks: They really don't want to operate in open. That's why they never > managed making EMV-cards usable on the Internet which also made the EMV > value proposal quite lame since the fraudsters simply moved their activity > to the Internet targeting "Card not present" transactions. > >> > >> "Software Patents" is another great topic. IPR folks have indicated > that my SKS/KeyGen2 scheme violates tons of smart card patents. Since I > have never read these patents and not that many specifications either, my > guess is that the solutions become more or less obvious when you actually > begin working in this space. To be on the safe(er) side I have filed some > of the core ideas as "Defensive Publications". > http://ip.com/IPCOM/000229430 http://ip.com/IPCOM/000215433 > >> Although getting a nickel in license fee for every phone sold would be > great, a patent would in reality only work as a blocker and destroy > whatever value the idea had. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Anders > >> > > -- Joseph Potvin Operations Manager | Gestionnaire des opérations The Opman Company | La compagnie Opman http://www.projectmanagementhotel.com/projects/opman-portfolio jpotvin@opman.ca Mobile: 819-593-5983 LinkedIn (Google short URL): http://goo.gl/Ssp56
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