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Re: [foaf-dev] Credentials Community Group

From: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2014 12:38:03 +0200
Message-ID: <CAKaEYhJK15LLMoOp-5PqeKKYH-nGSNUn7M-d=iHAU3dri59+mA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, Tim Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>, "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>, Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>, "public-rww@w3.org" <public-rww@w3.org>
On 1 August 2014 23:10, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 2014-08-01 16:21, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>
>> On 8/1/14 3:57 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>>
> <snip>
>
>
>>  Since Google can put *hundreds of people* on developing various
>>> browser/platform goodies while we appear not having a *single*
>>> browser-developer at our disposal (although our task is *much more
>>> difficult* than supporting "super-provider" schemes like Apple, Google or
>>> PayPal), I think we are currently pretty much stuck.
>>>
>>>
>> -1000
>>
>
> There's a simple explanation to why there are huge disagreements regarding
> this point:
>
> A bunch of people here want to build something based on the existing web
> technology and then get W3C's "Stamp of approval" as a part of their
> marketing of the software.  "We actually wrote the standard".
>

Everyone has different motivations.  Personally, I simply was searching for
a technology that would handle my use cases ie decentralized login and
payments.  To my complete amazement, no one had ever done that.  I never
dreamed I would be following standards work or interested in the semantic
web.  I understand your mindset, because I started as a sceptic, like most
web 2.0 developers, but it's only once I discovered what it was that I
realized it was the only technology that can handle the use cases I wanted,
namely to make a website without lock in that I'd be happy to use myself,
and that I'd be comfortable delivering to others.  Web payments + WebID is
pretty much the only way to do this, if another technology comes along
that's decentralized I'll happily use it, but I dont know of any other
group out there focussed on making truly decentralized, universal, modular
technology.


>
> Traditional "standardizers" do rarely make their living on shipping
> software, they rather want to create cool technology that presumably can do
> things we couldn't do before.  The driving force can be anything from
> ego-boost to employer requests and occasionally altruism.
>
> Whatever "camp" you belong to, I think there are reasons to think twice on
> how to proceed:
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2460020/android-grabs-
> record-85-percent-smartphone-share.html
> It is almost like when Microsoft won the desktop war; the competition
> didn't saw it coming and the rest is history.
>
> Anders
>
>
>
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