Re: From W3C's eCommerce Interest Group of the 1990s to Today's Web Payments Discussion

Hi Joseph,

those are indeed very good questions and I hope someone can share their
views.

After the workshop I was also wondering what exactly makes the payment
topic difficult. My impression is that the technology is the easy part.
Everyone can come up with a new data model, new protocol extension, and
crypto protocol. The tough part seems to be about finding the right mix
of incentives for various parties to deploy the technology.

It would have been useful to learn more from those who had been involved
in some of those efforts to get a better understanding of why things
failed.

Ciao
Hannes

PS: The IETF has also done work in this area and it also failed:
http://datatracker.ietf.org/wg/trade/charter/

On 04/07/2014 01:15 PM, Joseph Potvin wrote:
> Further to the wrap-up discussion about the creating on an Interest Group
> http://www.w3.org/2013/10/payments/minutes/2014-03-25-wrapup/
> 
> Does anyone on these lists have the "two-decades view" of W3C
> involvement with this topic?
> http://www.w3.org/ECommerce/
> http://www.w3.org/TR/EC-related-activities
> http://www.w3.org/ECommerce/Micropayments/
> http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-jepi
> 
> Three questions:
> 
> 1. What happened to those original efforts towards a W3C Specification
> on eCommerce that would have included specifications on web payments?
> 
> 2. What should we learn from substance and fate of those earlier efforts?
> 
> 3. Is there a need to "start" a new IG?  Or might the W3C eCommerce IG
> just re-convene, update its charter, and carry on?
> 
> Joseph Potvin
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Stephane Boyera <boyera@w3.org> wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Thanks to the great help from the Web Payments Community Group and Manu
>> Sporny, we just published a new cleaned version of the minutes of the
>> workshop at
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/10/payments/minutes/
>> The agenda with links to slides and presentations is available at
>> http://www.w3.org/2013/10/payments/agenda
>>
>> We are planning to circulate a draft report for your comments in the next 10
>> days.
>>
>> Best
>> Stephane
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