- From: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>
- Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2013 13:01:09 -0400
- To: Web Payments CG <public-webpayments@w3.org>
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RE: "Who owns" the bug? http://www.wmcompany.com/wmr/Partners/IndexCompilers/index.htm On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 8:20 AM, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca> wrote: > Bug report: ...in the $5.3 trillion-a-day (i.e $1.9 quadrillion-a-year) > foreign exchange market. > > http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-10-04/swiss-regulator-probes-alleged-foreign-exchange-manipulation.html > > "Traders at some of the world’s largest banks sought to manipulate the > WM/Reuters currency rates in their favor by pushing through trades before > and during the 60-second windows when the benchmarks are set, five current > and former dealers with knowledge of the practice said in June. Some > dealers colluded with counterparts to boost their chances of moving the > rates, said two of the people, who worked in the industry for a total of > more than 20 years. > Index Providers: The WM/Reuters rates are used by fund managers to > determine what they pay for currencies and to compute the day-to-day value > of their holdings, and by index providers such as FTSE Group and MSCI Inc. > (MSCI) that track stocks and bonds in multiple countries. While the rates > aren’t followed by most investors, even small movements can affect the > value of what Morningstar Inc. (MORN) estimates is $3.6 trillion in funds > including pension and savings accounts that track global indexes. > Traders said that because they agree to deal at the 4 p.m. WM/Reuters > price, they have to push through the bulk of their trades during the window > when the rate is calculated to minimize potential losses. That leads to a > surge in trading volume, which can intensify any moves, they said." > > See: www.wmcompany.com/wmr/index.htm > "Rates are fixed using a patented proprietery Methodology." [spelling > mistake in original] > http://www.wmcompany.com/pdfs/WMReutersMethodology.pdf > https://www.google.com/patents/US8301531 > https://www.google.com/patents/CA2553196C?cl=en > https://www.google.com/patents/US8429057 > https://www.google.com/patents/US20110295737 > > Question: "Who owns" the bug? The traders who learned the methodology's > design characteristics? Or the designer and patent-holder of the flawed > methodology? > > http://www.naturalworlds.org/goliathus/manual/Goliathus_breeding_1.htm > > -- > Joseph Potvin > > > On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca> wrote: > >> Ahead of the "Web Payments and Enabling Price Stability" BoF a day >> after the upcoming Edgeconf-NYC I would like to share some thoughts >> about price stability for transactions involving parties located >> within and amongst monetary jurisdictions. >> >> BoF Info: https://payswarm.com/events/2013/nyc-web-payments-bof >> Open-invitation to BoF, but RSVP. >> >> My suggestion is that the current Universal Payment System Use Case >> 2.11 "Currency Exchange" expressed in the use cases of the Payswarm >> in-progress reference implementation, should instead be named >> "Maintain Contract Price Stability". An optional Sub Use Case could >> then be "Negotiate Exchange Rate". This recommendation applies also to >> IFEX bullet point Multi-currency Exchange Rate Negotiation. >> >> https://payswarm.com/specs/source/use-cases/ >> http://www.ifex-project.org/our-proposals/ifex >> >> A detailed explanation (v1.00) has just been posted on my project >> management site: >> >> http://www.projectmanagementhotel.com/projects/free-libre-commerce/wiki/Use_Case_%E2%80%93_Price_Stability >> >> http://www.projectmanagementhotel.com/projects/free-libre-commerce?&lang=fr&lang=en >> >> Discussion welcome on this list, and/or at the BoF. >> >> -- >> Joseph Potvin >> Operations Manager | Gestionnaire des opérations >> The Opman Company | La compagnie Opman >> http://www.projectmanagementhotel.com/projects/opman-portfolio >> jpotvin@opman.ca >> Mobile: 819-593-5983 >> LinkedIn (Google short URL): http://goo.gl/Ssp56 >> > > > <http://goo.gl/Ssp56> > -- Joseph Potvin Operations Manager | Gestionnaire des opérations The Opman Company | La compagnie Opman http://www.projectmanagementhotel.com/projects/opman-portfolio jpotvin@opman.ca Mobile: 819-593-5983 LinkedIn (Google short URL): http://goo.gl/Ssp56
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