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RE: Re: Types of Digital Receipts

From: Albers, Todd <Todd.Albers@mpls.frb.org>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:10:32 +0000
To: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>, David Ezell <David_E3@verifone.com>
CC: Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
Message-ID: <E1cdJDY-0007Nv-EZ@titan.w3.org>
Let me address the comment on UBL adoption - UBL is becoming the de facto standard for B2G & B2B invoicing in a number of countries.  Here are several implementation examples:

European Committee for Standardization CEN / TC 434 is working on formal adoption of UBL as one of the standard for electronic invoices in the EU.  Also, the EU is implementing several directives instructing local and national governmental organizations to move towards electronic invoicing in public procurement, with UBL as one of the formats. https://www.oasis-open.org/news/pr/european-commission-approves-referencing-of-oasis-universal-business-language-ubl-standard 

Australia Digital Business Council adopted UBL as a national standard for B2G & B2B invoicing - http://digitalbusinesscouncil.com.au/einvoicing-interoperability-framework 

Mexico, Brazil, Peru, and Chile require businesses to transmit to tax authorities invoices in UBL to ensure tax amounts are obligated between trading partners.  Goods & Services cannot be released until acknowledged by the taxing authorities.
 
JSON syntax was created and updated with UBL 2.1, and is currently in public review draft - https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00020.html 

UBL 2.2 was just released for public review and comment - https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=ubl



Regards,

Todd M. Albers
Sr. Payments Consultant
Payments, Standards, and Outreach Group Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis
Office:  612-204-5543 | Cell:  612-214-1953 | todd.albers@mpls.frb.org

For more information about the Payments, Standards, and Outreach Group, visit our website at:  http://www.minneapolisfed.org/about/whatwedo/paymentsinformation.cfm


-----Original Message-----
From: Manu Sporny [mailto:msporny@digitalbazaar.com]
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2017 8:31 PM
To: Joseph Potvin; Dave Raggett; David Ezell
Cc: Web Payments IG
Subject: [External] Re: Types of Digital Receipts

On 02/12/2017 01:15 PM, Joseph Potvin wrote:
> Is there a reason to not make use of the UBL ontology? 
> https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/UBL-2.1.html (Also now 
> available in JSON.
> <https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00020.html>)

http://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/UBL-2.1-JSON/v1.0/cnprd01/UBL-2.1-JSON-v1.0-cnprd01.html#S-UBL-INVOICE-2.1-EXAMPLE-TRIVIAL.JSON


Some high level thoughts:

* Yes, /some/ part of UBL might be useful (but it's huge!)
* Ferreting out the overlap between GS1, UBL, ARTS, is going to be
  difficult and challenging.
* The UBL JSON mapping doesn't seem like it's standards track (it says
  so on the side of that document)
* It's not clear who has implemented the JSON stuff, or UBL? How wide
  are the deployments?

BTW, Joseph, did you see my email to the Credentials CG / VCTF wrt.
UNCITRAL? Looks like we're aligned w/ their most recent findings wrt.
Identity Management.

-- manu

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