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Re: Types of Digital Receipts

From: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 08:29:56 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKcXiSo-jF7bpsJjsojSh=nHZfYkkEct05MFoRXKpHOOKmwOkQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: David Ezell <David_E3@verifone.com>
Cc: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>, Dave Raggett <dsr@w3.org>, Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
Thanks David,

The receipts described could be candidates for a future UBL version. Here
are recent UBL TC minutes where they were talking about payment documents:

   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00010.html
   Payments, factoring and supply chain finance
    - any thoughts from our discussion at our last meeting:
      https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00004.html
    - involvement of the banks is crucial in this area, both for
      specification, test and deployment
    - do we need some kind of communique to solicit participation?  yes

Some elements being discussed are:

Payments, factoring and supply chain finance
>  - there is an interest in these topics in the Americas
>  - how can the UBL committee respond to such interests in its
> deliverables?
>  - considerable gap between 20022 and UBL gives us the opportunity to
> create
>    new document types to close the gap
>  - consolidation of transactions before connecting with 20022 processes
>  - example: Invoice Status Request and Invoice Status Response
>  - example: total amount of financing is different than amount on the
> invoice
>  - example: payment settlement
>  - business drivers in the Americas are different than in Europe
>    - new companies have different ways of providing finance and factoring
>      than elsewhere (FinTech) without basing their technology on standards
>    - opportunity to create the tools in the UBL suite
>  - Todd reports that 20022 invoice is no longer being supported (November
> 2016)
>    - opportunity to work more closely with 20022
>  - we could create a new subcommittee if this is considered sufficiently
>    separate from Post-Award, but Kees is willing to take it on
>

Here are the minutes of this last month's meeting where they open up
requirements for UBL 2.3:

   https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00013.html

It would be advantageous if the type of receipts being considered in the
WP-IG could also be put forward for the common UBL library in 2.3.

BTW, I was too quick on my reference to the JSON work on UBL. The JSON
serialization is only proposed and there are no plans at this time to make
it normative. The project that produced the work product was explorative
only. I reckon it could, however, be a useful W3C+OASIS collaboration! This
was posted two weeks ago:
"UBL 2.1 JSON Alternate Representation v1.0 and Business Document Naming
and Design Rules v1.1 start public review - Public review starts 01
February 2017 at 00:00 UTC and ends 01 April 2017 at 23:59 UTC"
https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00020.html

Joseph Potvin
Executive Director, Xalgorithms Foundation
Mobile: 819-593-5983
jpotvin@xalgorithms.org
https://www.xalgorithms.org

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 10:46 PM, David Ezell <David_E3@verifone.com> wrote:

> Hi Joseph:
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> The process is that we will examine external work, and I’m sure we will
> study it.
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>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Joseph Potvin [mailto:jpotvin@opman.ca]
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 12, 2017 1:16 PM
> *To:* Manu Sporny; Dave Raggett; David Ezell
> *Cc:* Web Payments IG
> *Subject:* Re: Types of Digital Receipts
>
>
>
> David, Many, Dave,
>
> Is there a reason to not make use of the UBL ontology?
>
> https://docs.oasis-open.org/ubl/os-UBL-2.1/UBL-2.1.html
>
> (Also now available in JSON.
> <https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/ubl/201701/msg00020.html>)
>
>
> Joseph Potvin
> Executive Director, Xalgorithms Foundation
> Mobile: 819-593-5983
> jpotvin@xalgorithms.org
> https://www.xalgorithms.org
>
> On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 11:22 AM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Dave Raggett and I have exchanged a few emails wrt. "Digital Wallets"
> and David Ezell's "Digital Receipts" proposal. Dave Raggett made the
> point that there are a number of different types of digital receipts
> that digital wallets may store on behalf of the customer. Some of these
> include:
>
> - transaction receipt (payment network has initiated payment)
> - purchase receipt (list of items purchased and amount paid)
> - consent receipt (I authorize you to use my information in these ways)
> - warranty information (Vendor promises wrt. quality of goods delivered)
>
> I've documented the issue here:
>
> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-ig/issues/49
>
> David Ezell, you may want to integrate these items into your digital
> receipts proposal.
>
> -- manu
>
> --
> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny)
> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc.
> blog: Rebalancing How the Web is Built
> http://manu.sporny.org/2016/rebalancing/
>
>
>
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