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Re: Ready for next steps on outreach to banks (part of TPAC preparation)

From: Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2015 10:53:29 -0500
Cc: claudia.swendseid@mpls.frb.org, public-webpayments-ig@w3.org, j.j.spaanderman@dnb.nl, patrick.adler@chi.frb.org, E.R.Fekkes@rn.rabobank.nl, Leandro.minniti@cip-bancos.org.br
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To: mark.tiggas@wellsfargo.com
Thank you, Mark and Claudia. To recap the list:

 * BITS
 * Clearing House
 * NACHA
 * American Bankers Association
 * Independent Bankers of America

I volunteer to reach out to NACHA. Would anyone else like to sign up for the others?

Ian


> On Sep 17, 2015, at 8:38 AM, <mark.tiggas@wellsfargo.com> <mark.tiggas@wellsfargo.com> wrote:
> 
> I might add to that list BITS (a division of the Financial Services Roundtable), The Clearing House Association and NACHA. Each often behaves as a banking consortia.
> 
> Best regards,
> Mark
> 
> Mark SB Tiggas, Managing Architect - Senior Vice President
> Enterprise Payments Architecture, FOSS Coordination and EA Communications
> Wells Fargo Bank, N.A.
> 255 2nd Avenue South, MAC N9301-045
> Minneapolis, MN 55479
> 612-316-3142, 612-850-5828 (mobile)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Swendseid, Claudia [mailto:claudia.swendseid@mpls.frb.org]
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> Subject: Re: Ready for next steps on outreach to banks (part of TPAC preparation)
> 
> Mark may have different views but the primary banking associations are the American Bankers Association and the Independent Bankers of America. If you want to reach credit unions, they have an association as well.
> 
> Claudia
> 
> 
> Claudia Swendseid
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2015 05:21 PM
> To: Mark.Tiggas@wellsfargo.com <Mark.Tiggas@wellsfargo.com>
> Cc: public-webpayments-ig@w3.org <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>; j.j.spaanderman@dnb.nl <j.j.spaanderman@dnb.nl>; Adler, Patrick; Swendseid, Claudia; E.R.Fekkes@rn.rabobank.nl <E.R.Fekkes@rn.rabobank.nl>; Leandro.minniti@cip-bancos.org.br <Leandro.minniti@cip-bancos.org.br>
> Subject: Re: Ready for next steps on outreach to banks (part of TPAC preparation)
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2015, at 9:07 AM, Mark.Tiggas@wellsfargo.com wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, but there will be no Wells Fargo response to the questionnaire, certainly not in the time frame that is being considered. It would take 2-3 weeks to determine who should participate in the conferences to assemble a response at an institution of our size.
>> 
>> I do want to support a point Cyril made on the call yesterday. "What is the sound of one hand clapping?" Talking to individual banks about how to manage the payment communication process ignores the fact that payments are a multi-party business process. Historically, in part to manage risk, in part because the world's oldest credit transfer instrument, the check (or cheque for those outside the US) was physical and needed to be exchanged, were exchanged through third parties. But even without the physical exchange (which we have for the most part eliminated) the management of settlement risk is still an important aspect of these institutions. Seldom does the four corner model really have four corners.
>> 
>> Typically surveys such as this are better managed by or through organizations like banking associations and central banks, that can insure anonymous participation.
> 
> Hi Mark,
> 
> Thank you for weighing in. Are there banking associations you recommend that we contact (and that you could help us connect with)?
> Cyril has identified a few in Europe but I don’t know that we have identified any in the US yet. (Unless it’s elsewhere on the thread and I’ve not read the suggestions yet…)
> 
> Ian
> 
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Mark
>> 
>> Mark SB Tiggas, Managing Architect - Senior Vice President Enterprise
>> Payments Architecture, FOSS Coordination and EA Communications Wells
>> Fargo Bank, N.A.
>> 255 2nd Avenue South, MAC N9301-045
>> Minneapolis, MN 55479
>> 612-316-3142, 612-850-5828 (mobile)
>> 
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ian Jacobs [mailto:ij@w3.org]
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:57 PM
>> To: Web Payments IG; j.j.spaanderman@dnb.nl; Tiggas, Mark; Patrick
>> Adler; Swendseid, Claudia; Evert Fekkes; Leandro Bernal Minniti
>> Subject: Ready for next steps on outreach to banks (part of TPAC
>> preparation)
>> 
>> Dear Web Payments Interest Group,
>> 
>> We have held three teleconferences on bank priorities (see [1]) and now have a template and a set of 26 organizations and people to reach out to with 10 questions:
>> 
>> https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/StakeholderPriorities/BankOutreach
>> 
>> Our goal is to send them questions and, in some cases organize phone calls to discuss the questions, and have feedback by 28 September, which we will put in the wiki.
>> 
>> If you are a Web Payments Interest Group participant and wish to reach out to a bank with these questions, please refer to the wiki FIRST to see whether someone else is planning to do so. If you plan to do so, please add your name to the wiki (and I encourage people to sign up!).
>> 
>> NOTE TO: JurgenS, MarkT, Claudia and Pat, EvertF, and LeandroM:
>> 
>> We invite you to answer the questions directly in the wiki for your organizations, or you can contact me separately to discuss.
>> 
>> Let me know if you have any questions,
>> 
>> Ian
>> 
>> [1] https://www.w3.org/Payments/IG/wiki/StakeholderPriorities#Banks
>> 
>> 
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