- From: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>
- Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 06:46:36 -0400
- To: Nick Shearer <nshearer@apple.com>
- Cc: Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKcXiSqtbcaVyaBPjhh_OcJaCWyp=ZKAHdCzR3szBnhxiNd+bg@mail.gmail.com>
RE: "Although I totally understand there are a lot of different opinions over what exactly constitutes a “digital wallet” I think the charter needs to settle on an explicit definition" Nick, Futher to the document that Arie just linked to, which observes: "The ‘mobile wallet wars’, as they call it, has been heating up like crazy since the three giants, Apple, Google and Samsung all announced the launch of their respective m-payment services." Source: http://www.mobilepaymentstoday.com/static_media/filer_public/2b/64/2b64d561-ab2e-40de-8802-50049acb6338/janos_koka_-_even_the_smallest_ones_matter.pdf Can you let us know the status of negotiations amongst Apple, Google and Samsung toward a single definition of "digital wallet"? Joseph Potvin Operations Manager | Gestionnaire des opérations The Opman Company | La compagnie Opman jpotvin@opman.ca Mobile: 819-593-5983 LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-potvin/2/148/423> On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Nick Shearer <nshearer@apple.com> wrote: > Although I totally understand there are a lot of different opinions over > what exactly constitutes a “digital wallet” I think the charter needs to > settle on an explicit definition, rather than a pragmatic approach. It > would be most unfortunate if, for example, Participant A in the WG had a > completely different idea as to what “digital wallet” meant than > Participant B. > > > On Oct 11, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca> wrote: > > RE: 6. Definition of "digital wallet" > > Based on earlier list discussions, it seems there's more than one "school > of thought" about this. Certainly there is disagreement in the payments > industry as to how to define it. > > According to Mobile Payments Today’s “Mobile Wallet Comparison Guide > 2015,” it is as difficult to determine a precise definition for a ‘mobile > wallet’ as it is to determine the total number of mobile wallet providers." > Source: > > http://www.mobilepaymentstoday.com/static_media/filer_public/c0/5a/c05a213e-9f4b-4274-a661-fb2a872d602a/cardlinx_guide_final.pdf > > Therefore I'd like to suggest that this be approached as "Definitions of > "digital wallet". > > By approaching this in a dualistic or if appropriate, a pluralistic way, > we'd at least make progress towards understanding what the various camps > agree and disagree about. > > A pragmatic consideration is that it will likely be much quicker to arrive > at two or three interesting and useful definitions of "digital wallet" > than to arrive a single one. > > Joseph Potvin > Project Coordinator, DataKinetics > Operations Manager | Gestionnaire des opérations > The Opman Company | La compagnie Opman > jpotvin@opman.ca > Mobile: 819-593-5983 > LinkedIn <https://www.linkedin.com/pub/joseph-potvin/2/148/423> > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:36 PM, Nitin Gaur <ngaur@us.ibm.com> wrote: > >> I'd be happy to add to Digital Wallet definitions and non browser flows. >> >> N >> >> :) >> Nitin Gaur >> IBM Blockchain >> 512-789-5300 >> >> -----Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> wrote: ----- >> To: Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org> >> From: Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> >> Date: 10/07/2015 09:44PM >> Subject: Web Payments WG Charter Changes >> >> Here's a list of changes to aid us in reviewing the updated Web >> Payments WG Charter: >> >> Front Matter >> 1. Initial Chairs - missing second chair? >> 2. Goals greatly simplified. >> >> Scope >> 3. Scope simplified to only include messages, flows, and "an API" >> 4. Mentions of a "mediating use agent" API >> 5. Shift from "standardize" to "Recommend" >> >> Definitions >> 6. Definition of "digital wallet" >> >> Require Capabilities >> 7. Simplification of introductory text >> 8. Pre-payment "with the user agent" vs. "via the user agent" >> 9. Negotiation - simplification of language >> 10. Addition of "deferred payment execution" >> >> Digital Wallets >> 11. Shortened definition of digital wallet >> 12. Non-browser payment flows API >> 13. loyalty schemes and coupons, digital receipts, digital credentials, >> tickets, and location services are out of scope. >> >> Security and Privacy Considerations >> 14. Minor updates to language >> >> Web Payments Messages Recommendation >> 15. Minor changes + server-to-server communication language added >> >> Web Payments APIs Recommendation >> 16. Gross simplification of text >> >> Process and Planning >> 17. New section on preferring CG input and W3C Member Submissions >> >> Licensing >> 18. New permissive document licensing section >> >> -- manu >> >> -- >> Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) >> Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. >> blog: Web Payments: The Architect, the Sage, and the Moral Voice >> https://manu.sporny.org/2015/payments-collaboration/ >> >> >> >> > >
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