- From: Joseph Potvin <jpotvin@opman.ca>
- Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 19:51:05 -0400
- To: Web Payments IG <public-webpayments-ig@w3.org>
- Message-ID: <CAKcXiSqKq3xT2X5RXL0MLBOc8vmvbVV8eiry8GP-M+by3dNngQ@mail.gmail.com>
I wonder what proportion of the target clients of LevelOne would ever read and then understand the Terms & Conditions: https://leveloneproject.org/terms-and-privacy/ ...which refers to: http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Global-Access/Terms-of-Use and http://www.gatesfoundation.org/terms-of-use Seriously. Joseph Potvin Operations Manager | Gestionnaire des opérations The Opman Company | La compagnie Opman jpotvin@opman.ca Mobile: 819-593-5983 On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 1:20 PM, Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> wrote: > > > On Apr 30, 2015, at 8:32 PM, Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com> > wrote: > > > > The Gates Foundation has just announced their LevelOne project, which is > > an attempt to extend financial services to the world's unbanked and > > underbanked: > > > > https://leveloneproject.org/ > > > > If you only have 5 minutes, here's a video summarizing the project: > > > > https://leveloneproject.org/videos/overview/ > > Hi Manu, > > Catching up on this; thanks for the pointers. The video was indeed helpful. > > > > > A few weeks ago, I was invited out to the Gates Foundation to > > participate in the work that led to this announcement. There is a very > > large amount of overlap with the work we're doing here and the work that > > the Gates Foundation needs to have happen to achieve the mission they've > > outlined for the LevelOne project. > > > > There are use cases that we should integrate into our use cases document: > > > > > https://leveloneproject.org/the-guide/user-requirements-behind-the-level-one-project-guide/ > > This is also useful and I think aligns with the architectural capabilities > we are discussing > as well as the audience-specific benefits. > > > > > There is also a great deal of "lessons learned" that should deeply > > impact our thinking wrt. the design of the Payment Architecture: > > > > > https://leveloneproject.org/the-guide/payment-systems-lessons-learned-and-highlights/ > > > > Finally, they've released a Digital Financial Services guide that > > outlines the key components that they believe will lead to successful > > deployments of digital payment systems. > > > > https://leveloneproject.org/the-guide/guide-for-digital-payments-system/ > > In that document in particular I find the section on “conditions necessary > for success” section > very relevant to our upcoming FTF discussion about deployment. > > Also, the design principles align to a certain degree with our own > architectural vision, > except that their list is more specific because they are designing a new > system, while we are > supporting existing systems as well. > > Here’s a quick comparison: > > * Open Loop: Web is open loop. We expect Web to act as a bridge between > both open and closed loops. > * Immediate funds transfer. I think our expectation is to impose no time > delays by virtue of our architecture. Any > delays will be inherent to the underlying systems. > * Push payments: We are enabling both push and pull payments within the > system. > * Same-day Settlement: Our expectations is to impose no time delays by > virtue of our architecture > * Open international standards: Yes! > * Irrevocability: That seems to be a property that we would not enforce > directly through our architecture but > would depend on an underlying system. > * Shared fraud service: Same > * Tiered KYC: Same > > Ian > > > > > This work, and the US Fed Faster Payments work, are two very important > > guides that should impact the technical direction of the work at W3C. > > > > I learned a great deal more during my time at the Gates Foundation and > > hope to share with the group during our call next week now that the > > embargo has been lifted. > > > > -- manu > > > > -- > > Manu Sporny (skype: msporny, twitter: manusporny, G+: +Manu Sporny) > > Founder/CEO - Digital Bazaar, Inc. > > blog: The Marathonic Dawn of Web Payments > > http://manu.sporny.org/2014/dawn-of-web-payments/ > > > > -- > Ian Jacobs <ij@w3.org> http://www.w3.org/People/Jacobs > Tel: +1 718 260 9447 > > > > --
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