- From: Steven Rowat <steven_rowat@sunshine.net>
- Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 10:59:38 -0700
- To: public-webpayments-comments@w3.org
On 10/26/16 4:40 PM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > I want a verified pony as much as the next person, but at some point > the framing starts to look more like a solution looking for problems ...> Tantek Çelik > AB member > Web Standards Lead, Mozilla You've used the passive voice in '...starts to look more like...', but I think you mean "the framing starts to look [to me] more like a solution looking for problems".... And, your perception of what is a problem (and what isn't) is colored by your own specific position relative to the web (and society as a whole), necessarily. For example, by your signature line, I'd speculate that, at least in part, that position will be the position of Mozilla. And so is my perception colored by my own position. I'm not in Mozilla. So we're likely to identify different problems. And so with a lot of other people, in other points of view. The Use Cases document has evolved, first from the Web Payments group, over a period of perhaps ten years, maybe longer. https://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/use-cases/ . Many people have contributed. It currently holds 25 specific examples split into Finance, Education, Healthcare, Retail, Professional Credentials, and Legal Identity. There could be many more, but that could overwhelm prospective readers of the document. These illustrate the breadth of what is being attempted, and give a series of real-world stories to it. I'm personally only strongly interested in two or three of those cases, in the sense that they would make the work that I do easier. For the rest, I can see that most of the rest would be good to have for society; and I suppose somebody must feel strongly about them or they wouldn't have made it. I've watched them being added by various people from various life-roles that I know little or nothing about. I'm willing to accept that these people have their reasons. And I'll stay involved, as long as the ones I'm interested in are still accepted as valid goals. I agree about your example of the Web of Things and the current attack problem. That could be included as a use case, in my opinion, and an interesting one. But that doesn't make the other 25 cases any less important; it just adds to them. Steven Rowat > > [1] I.e. I assume y'all have seen: > https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/hacked-cameras-dvrs-powered-todays-massive-internet-outage/ > > > On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Rinke Hoekstra <rinke.hoekstra@vu.nl> wrote: >> Dear All, >> >> The Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam also supports the Verifiable Claims WG Charter, and is looking forward to contributing. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Rinke Hoekstra >> >> >> >>> On 21 Oct 2016, at 20:20, j.j.spaanderman@dnb.nl wrote: >>> >>> +1 to the Verifiable Claims WG charter on behalf of DNB. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Jurgen >>> >>> Van: Hakkinen, Mark T >>> Verzonden: vrijdag 21 oktober 2016 20:08 >>> Aan: w3c-ac-forum@w3.org >>> Cc: public-webpayments-comments@w3.org >>> Onderwerp: RE: Support for Verifiable Claims >>> >>> +1 to the verifiable claims working group charter http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/charter/ >>> >>> Educational Testing Service supports this charter and looks forward to contributing to the work of the group. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -- >>> Markku (Mark) T. 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