Re: Support for Verifiable Claims

Actually, this is not a formal AC review of a proposed charter; it's a
pre-view of said proposal, which as I understand it will be formally
proposed to the AC sometime in November.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2016 at 5:03 PM, David Wood <david.wood@ephox.com> wrote:

> Hi Tantek,
>
> No, this is an AC review of a proposed working group charter in compliance
> with the W3C Process, section 5.2.3.
>
>
> On Thursday, 27 October 2016, Tantek Çelik <tantek@cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, is this just a big cheerleading technology wishlist
>> thread, or are y'all actively implementing verifiable claims
>> prototypes and trying them on the open web?
>>
>> (I didn't see "implement", "prototype", or "incubate" mentioned in any
>> of the chain of +1s previous in the thread, mostly just "contribute"
>> which I suppose we are all doing by emailing about it, but we can do
>> that within existing IGs/CGs.)
>>
>> I want a verified pony as much as the next person, but at some point
>> the framing starts to look more like a solution looking for problems
>> (or problems aspirationally assuming they'll be solved by a claimed
>> foundational panacea) rather than something that actually benefits the
>> web platform directly.
>>
>> E.g. perhaps pick one specific area that verifiable claims may
>> potentially benefit that needs something like it badly (up to
>> advocates to prototype/demonstrate workability to be sure), like
>> WoT/IoT, which is currently beset by the wide deployment and
>> misdirection[1] of quite a few "unverified" devices.
>>
>> (just did a quick web search on "verifiable claims" "web of things"
>> and found a few pages that mention both, but nothing that actually
>> connected these two in any substantive way. Hard to believe this email
>> is the first suggestion thereof, earlier references welcome.)
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tantek Çelik
>> AB member
>> Web Standards Lead, Mozilla
>>
>> [1] I.e. I assume y'all have seen:
>> https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/10/hacked-cameras-dvrs-powe
>> red-todays-massive-internet-outage/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Rinke Hoekstra <rinke.hoekstra@vu.nl>
>> wrote:
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > The Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam also supports the Verifiable Claims WG
>> Charter, and is looking forward to contributing.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Rinke Hoekstra
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 21 Oct 2016, at 20:20, j.j.spaanderman@dnb.nl wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1 to the Verifiable Claims WG charter on behalf of DNB.
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >> Jurgen
>> >>
>> >> Van: Hakkinen, Mark T
>> >> Verzonden: vrijdag 21 oktober 2016 20:08
>> >> Aan: w3c-ac-forum@w3.org
>> >> Cc: public-webpayments-comments@w3.org
>> >> Onderwerp: RE: Support for Verifiable Claims
>> >>
>> >> +1 to the  verifiable claims working group charter
>> http://w3c.github.io/webpayments-ig/VCTF/charter/
>> >>
>> >> Educational Testing Service supports this charter and looks forward to
>> contributing to the work of the group.
>> >>
>> >> Mark
>> >>
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