- From: Coralie Mercier <coralie@w3.org>
- Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 23:30:57 +0200
- To: "public-webizen@w3.org" <public-webizen@w3.org>
Hi all,
The minutes of today's teleconference are at:
http://www.w3.org/2014/05/05-webizen-minutes.html
Summary:
We went over the content of the wiki, made edits in place or took actions
to update.
Help needed to suggest a better name (one that has some sparkle to it).
Voting section needs to clarify that constituents of the Web should decide
which voting mechanism they want.
Help needed on Launch and Comm plan.
The W3C Advisory Committee will hear about the program at their June
meeting, and discuss the key issues.
Actions from today:
[ NEW] ACTION: Coralie to work with Sébastien on commenting in wiki on
"zen" connotation in "Name" section of the wiki.
Actions carried from past meetings:
Veronica to update wiki (discounts proposal)
koalie to align pitch phrases with goals as stated in section created
today
koalie to get W3C Offices to identify likely candidates and seek their
reaction
Next meeting: To arrange
I've updated <https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webizen#Meeting_records_and_actions>.
Cheers,
Coralie
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Webizen task force meeting
05 May 2014
See also: [2]IRC log
[2] http://www.w3.org/2014/05/05-webizen-irc
Attendees
Present
Coralie Mercier, Sébastien Desbenoit, Ann Bassetti, Jeff
Jaffe
Regrets
Veronica Thom, Virginie Galindo, Robin Berjon
Chair
Jeff Jaffe
Scribe
Coralie
Contents
* [3]Topics
1. [4]Prologue
2. [5]Background
3. [6]Name
4. [7]Voting
5. [8]Launch and Comm plan
6. [9]FAQ
7. [10]Schedule
8. [11]Discount proposal
9. [12]Any other business
* [13]Summary of Action Items
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<koaliie> [14]Previous (2014-04-10 Webizen task force meeting)
[14]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webizen/2014Apr/0002.html
<koaliie> [15]Webizen Wiki
[15] https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webizen
<scribe> scribe: Coralie
<scribe> scribenick: koalie
Jeff: Let's go over the wiki
... which has received 28K+ visits [since early March]
Prologue
Jeff: Nothing changed there
... we can proceed to next sections.
Background
Jeff: I've not heard much discussion there.
Name
Jeff: We've used "Webizen" as a placeholder; we mean citizen of
the Web.
... There's been some feedback it isn't the best name in the
world.
... Some people have listed some names in the wiki.
... Additional comments in the Twitter thread.
... Stephen Shankland even suggested "Masochists"
[laughter on the call]
Jeff: We can put a list for vote.
Ann: "Constituents" mean member of something.
... Most of the ones suggested are not sufficiently
distinctive.
... I'll add a comment there.
Jeff: "Constituents" I take this as to mean "Constituents of
the Web"
... Additional suggestions welcome and would be useful.
[Coralie: I don't have a clever suggestion yet]
Sébastien: Webizen in French has a connotation of "zen"
... To have something that means anything in all cultures could
take a long time.
[Coralie: I have often thought of "Webizen" as "We be Zen"]
<jeff_> citoyen
<desbenoit> koalie :)
<jeff_> Weboyen
:)
Ann: The point being, what could it mean in Chinese? Let's
continue to work on the name.
<AnnB> very interesting points
Ann: I never perceived the "zen" connotation
Jeff: I hope someone adds a comment to this extent on the wiki
<scribe> ACTION: Coralie to work with Sébastien on commenting
in wiki on "zen" connotation in "Name" section of the wiki
[recorded in
[16]http://www.w3.org/2014/05/05-webizen-minutes.html#action01]
Jeff: Anything else before we move on?
[none]
Voting
Jeff: I think we need to do something about voting.
... There is a problem in the current write-up,
... which seems to be favouring a particular approach.
... The community says there is a desire to look at different
voting mechanism.
... JC Verdié raised this as the last call.
... We should let the constituents of the Web decide, rather
than imposing a voting mechanism.
... But it would be preferible to rephrase this section,
... to say for webizen voting for the AC should be decided by
Webizen.
... This wiki could be a collecting point for proposals at
least for now.
... There is proposal 1,
... we should encourage the community to suggest others.
Ann: I completely agree.
Jeff: The current approach isn't STV.
... I inserted text to explain why I was not proposing STV.
... Webizens should decide how they want to vote.
... Let's make this a place to receive proposals.
... We should have some discussion of the time.
<jeff_> Jeff: Since the first Webizen voting cycle for the AC
starts on JUly 1, 2015
<jeff_> ... the Webizens should select their preferred voting
mechanism prior to that
<jeff_> ... so it would make sense for them to select their
preferred voting mechanism
<jeff_> ... in the period from 1 January 2015 to 1 April 2015
Jeff: Anything else for voting?
[none]
Launch and Comm plan
Jeff: That's also probably a good place to talk about pitch
phrases.
<jeff_> Coralie: Nothing new to add since last update
Ann: It looks like the pitch points are based on the name
"Webizen"
... it will depend on what name we got, what kind of marketing
we choose.
... The name needs to work for everybody but it would be
helpful if it got some sparkle to it.
... I'll add something to the wiki, in the pitch section.
Sebastien: "Giving back" We get the global idea, after that,
it's a matter of choosing the right words
FAQ
Jeff: No change at the moment.
Schedule
Jeff: We've sent out the schedule of the AC Meeting agenda to
the AC,
... and the program committee (on which I sit) decided to put
the Webizen topic on the big tent agenda, not even a breakout.
... The thought for the presentation is less a presentation and
more a discussion of the key issues
... including:
... 1. should we have a webizen program?
... 2. what should we name it?
... 3. collection of benefits, right sets, what to add or
substract?
... 4. should voting mechanism be decided by the Webizens?
... The other topics in the wiki are not hard issues for the
AC, can be discussed separately.
Ann: re: #4, we'll start with so few Webizens that it will not
be sufficient to make that decision.
... Maybe the decision doesn't need to be made at the very
beginning.
Jeff: That's a good point.
... As we phrase the voting question on the wiki,
... we can add the Webizens will look at the voting mechanism
every election until it reaches stability,
... in year 5 or 6, they can decide how to do the election.
Ann: I felt the voting discussion was overwhelming.
Jeff: Did you see my response on the thread this morning?
Ann: I skimmed through it.
Jeff: I said basically what you just said;
... We'd love to get a proposal from a Community Group
Ann: I don't want this group to get overwhelmed before it's
even started.
<AnnB> I'll respond on voting in the AC threads
Discount proposal
Jeff: I'll ask Veronica wrt her action.
Any other business
Jeff: : Any other business?
... We're 5 weeks away from the AC meeting, we can intensify
the meetings, or say we're almost done and meet less often.
Ann: When there's something to talk about?
<desbenoit> @koalie If you need some help on the comm topic.
Jeff: Coralie, any sense of when we might see more on comm
plan?
Coralie: Not really, but I prefer some cadence to the calls.
Jeff: Coralie, please take the action to schedule the next
meeting
Coralie: Will do
Ann: I've updated the "name" section in the wiki, to add a note
on "sparkle"
<AnnB> bye
Summary of Action Items
[NEW] ACTION: Coralie to work with Sébastien on commenting in
wiki on "zen" connotation in "Name" section of the wiki
[recorded in
[17]http://www.w3.org/2014/05/05-webizen-minutes.html#action01]
[End of minutes]
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