Re: Number of representatives

On 5/3/2014 1:33 PM, Brian Kardell wrote:
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> On May 3, 2014 7:28 AM, "Charles McCathie Nevile" 
> <chaals@yandex-team.ru <mailto:chaals@yandex-team.ru>> wrote:
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> > Hi,
> >
> > I like the idea of the representatives, but I think there are a few 
> things that we should consider.
> >
> > There isn't a clear linear comparison between number of AC reps and 
> income - the difference is more than an order of magnitude between 
> very big and very small members already. But that is somewhat balanced 
> by the fact that big members *generally* have far more effective 
> power, by having more employees who can participate than smaller 
> organisations.
> >
> > The number of "webizen representatives" should probably be capped at 
> some fraction of the number of overall AC representatives.
> >
> IIRC the current proposal does provide both a representation formula  
> (more or less linear i think) and a cap that seemed kind of reasonable 
> (20 i thought it was).
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> > Getting this perfect isn't as important as it seems. The AC advise, 
> rather than being able to do anything useful in a strict up/down vote. 
> So numbers matters far less than the quality of your representative - 
> and for that matter, your ability to determine "facts on the ground", 
> since W3C doesn't have any procedure to require following its decisions.
> >
> > Rather than taking a straight line approach, I suggest we allocate a 
> number of potential representative places on a sliding basis. I 
> specifically propose:
> > - a minimum of 3 for up to 1000 webizens
> > - adding 2 representatives for every doubling of the number of 
> webizens up to 100k
> > - 23 representatives at 100k, and
> > - adding 4 representative for every doubling thereafter
> >
> A linear formula + simple cap also works pretty well though and has 
> the benefit of meaning the same thing until you hit the threshold 
> which seems kinda nice to me.  The cap/formula can always be 
> revisited, right? Personally speaking, i think getting something in 
> place that can be further tweaked is way way more important than 
> fiddling too much over what a max might be if a zillion people join or 
> the optimal formula...  It's got to get to where we can elect a few 
> reps and get it started imo.
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> > This would mean 103 million webizens would have 83 representatives.
> >
> > Before we reached such a point I think we would consider changing 
> the nature of the organisation more seriously.
>
> Yes, me too :)
>
> Probably Long before such a point. If each of 100M people paid $*1* / 
> year, the W3C budget would be massively different.
>

Even I don't allow myself such a fantasy.

> Although unless we get some sensible mechanism for web-based 
> micropayment, with current technology the most likely outcome of all 
> that new income is a major overall deficit :(
> >
> > cheers
> >
> > Chaals
> >
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