Re: Deployment, Deployment, Deployment! was: X509 and Verificable Creds: A Quick Note on WebID history - Re: All the Agents Challenge (ATAC) at ISWC 2021

Hi Bergi,

Thanks for moving the WebID discussion related issue
to the list here.

> On 10. Aug 2021, at 00:52, bergi <bergi@axolotlfarm.org> wrote:
> 
> Am 09.08.21 um 18:32 schrieb Henry Story:
>>> On 9. Aug 2021, at 17:34, bergi <bergi@axolotlfarm.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Am 27.07.21 um 20:07 schrieb Melvin Carvalho:
>>>> I'm hearing that you dont have time/resources to take WebID any further
>>>> So, would you step down as chair of the the WebID community group at let others, perhaps a community effort, to modernize it
>>> 
>>> I strongly support that. Not leaving any comment on a proposal like that is even more an argument to look for another chair who can contribute more time for the group.

Btw. what is the proposal that is being talked about? 

>> The place for these discussions in on the WebID mailing list.
> 
> I guess all people who are still interested in WebID are also on the RWW mailing list, but I added the WebID mailing list to this thread for the sake of completeness.

I don’t have time to follow the discussions on the rww mailing
list in detail, and what I see of discussions there, I don’t find to 
be very productive. Recently they seem to have been very aggressive too,
a bit like this call to remove me as chair, suddenly, like 10 years
after the group has pretty much been quiet.

> 
>> Someone left some detailed improvements to the spec a few months ago.
>> You are welcome to make a PR using that on https://github.com/w3c/webid
>> and I will be happy to review that.
> 
> A chair has more/different responsibilities than reviewing PRs.

There is no requirement for groups to go on forever either, and keep 
discussing issues when there is nothing to discuss. In fact *all* groups
that are productive have time limits. 

The WebID spec has mostly been used by the Solid community, 
and so the question

Now I am open to making improvements to the specs, especially as I
am using it. Indeed David Booth put forward a list of changes 
in this e-mail

https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webid/2021Mar/0000.html

and that is why we opened a github repository to make just such
changes. You can even leave issues there.

I currently have received a little funding to write a Solid server 

   https://nlnet.nl/project/SolidControl/

and work on access control and authentication there, as well as on
a couple of groups in the Solid community. 

> 
>> Note that the WebID XG was not meant to go on forever.
> 
> The WebID XG transitioned already in 2012 into the WebID CG, and the CG has no end date. If you think the work is done, maybe it's best to resign and hand the future of the CG over to the members.

Can you tell us what it is that you want to see being worked on? 
What problems with the specs do you see?


Henry Story

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