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Re: Simple Page-Owner Token (SPOT) Authentication

From: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 07:26:19 +0100
Message-ID: <546D898B.6070300@gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, public-webid@w3.org
On 2014-11-19 22:34, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> On 11/19/14 2:45 PM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>> On 2014-11-19 19:48, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>> On 11/19/14 9:42 AM, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>>>> On 2014-11-19 14:33, Mo McRoberts wrote:
>>>>> We use TLS CCA within the BBC for access to production services and tools. Thousands upon thousands of people use them regularly. I'm an issuer for third parties who've signed NDAs to get certs, so I also have to deal with them when they get unstuck. I can tell you absolutely categorically that the CCA user experience *is* universally terrible, especially around cert/key management. I know this not because I'm jumping to conclusions on behalf of end-users, but because I have to support the end-users who are using CCA.
>>>>
>>>> Exactly, the certificate/key management mechanism featured in for example Firefox was designed 1995.
>>>> Micosoft's [even more useless] CertEnroll came with Windows 98.
>>>>
>>>> It was OK back then but not today.
>>>>
>>>> Anders
>>>
>>> Have you tried Safari and Chrome?
>>>
>>> Microsoft's implementation isn't useless. What version of IE and Windows are you referring to?
>>
>> Kingsley,
>>
>> Why do you think we after TWENTY YEARS with credit-card payments
>> on the web still have the worst possible security and UX?
>>
>> Anders
>
> Don't tell me you believe that is a Microsoft problem.

No, Intel and Nokia also participated in the http://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/
plot which excluded consumers and gave the competition free hands designing
innovative and useful consumer security solutions like U2F and Apple Pay.

Anders
Former member TCG

>
> This issue is more to do with the consequence of many smaller issues (and moving parts) associated with technology, application development, and user knowledge.
>
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>
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