- From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
- Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 09:49:40 +1000
- To: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>
- Cc: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>, "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>
- Message-Id: <3518435F-29C6-42F4-920F-8E9D8A0A90B9@gmail.com>
Sent from my iPad > On 10 Jun 2014, at 2:26 am, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> On 9 June 2014 17:30, Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi Kingsley, >> >> thanks for the response. Yes. Current format of WebID (specifically) is simply FOAF. Calling it WebID when it means FOAF is well... FOAF. > > WebID is not coupled to FOAF. Is FOAF ever mentioned in the spec? http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/webid/spec/identity/ > >> >> When it starts to be used for authentication problems emerge - authentication being a form of agreement that you knowingly access a private record or access control value; that is protected by some form of authentication. >> >> Assuming of course; the authentication mechanism isn't triggering off approvals to other peoples stuff, but rather effectively providing access to stuff on a legitimate (or as intended) basis... perhaps also, as understood by all involved parties too... >> >> >> >>> On 9 June 2014 22:10, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote: >>>> On 6/9/14 3:56 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote: >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identity >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_identity >>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_(philosophy) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_%28philosophy%29> >>>> >>>> >>>> My rational around continuing to debate this; is that the whilst identity systems are fragmented on the web; they are fragmented by organisational influences, with increasingly lesser support for personal ones. >>>> >>>> My recent drafts about it: linked, http://webarts.mediaprophet.net/?p=72 (and http://webarts.mediaprophet.net/?p=68 ) >>> >>> Simple answer: No. >>> >>> You can use FOAF terms to construct an Identity Card or Profile Document. That's where its utility starts and stops. >>> >>> 1. Identity -- nebulous >>> 2. Identifiers -- denotation mechanism (e.g., HTTP URI) for a perceived identity >>> 3. Identification -- identity card or profile document (you can use terms from FOAF here) comprised of identity oriented claims >>> 4. authentication -- various protocols for verifying claims made in identity cards and profile docs >>> 5. authorization -- various protocols for providing authenticated identities with access to protected resources. >>> >>> >>> Having a WebID (HTTP URI) that denotes entity "You" is how you make a name for yourself on an HTTP network like the Web :-) >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Kingsley Idehen >>> Founder & CEO >>> OpenLink Software >>> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com >>> Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen >>> Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen >>> Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about >>> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen >
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