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Re: Does FOAF provide sufficient ontological support for WebID & WWW Identity AUTH REQ's?

From: Timothy Holborn <timothy.holborn@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2014 01:30:35 +1000
Message-ID: <CAM1Sok2WCXODGnjihpX3GUNtfbtMXBW1Q3gGiSecLAvOEusMbA@mail.gmail.com>
To: Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com>
Cc: "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>
Hi Kingsley,

thanks for the response. Yes. Current format of WebID (specifically) is
simply FOAF.  Calling it WebID when it means FOAF is well...  FOAF.

When it starts to be used for authentication problems emerge -
authentication being a form of agreement that you knowingly access a
private record or access control value; that is protected by some form of
authentication.

Assuming of course; the authentication mechanism isn't triggering off
approvals to other peoples stuff, but rather effectively providing access
to stuff on a legitimate (or as intended) basis...  perhaps also, as
understood by all involved parties too...



On 9 June 2014 22:10, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:

> On 6/9/14 3:56 AM, Timothy Holborn wrote:
>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_identity
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_identity
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_(philosophy) <
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identity_%28philosophy%29>
>>
>>
>> My rational around continuing to debate this; is that the whilst identity
>> systems are fragmented on the web; they are fragmented by organisational
>> influences, with increasingly lesser support for personal ones.
>>
>> My recent drafts about it: linked, http://webarts.mediaprophet.net/?p=72
>> (and http://webarts.mediaprophet.net/?p=68 )
>>
>>
>>
> Simple answer: No.
>
> You can use FOAF terms to construct an Identity Card or Profile Document.
> That's where its utility starts and stops.
>
> 1. Identity -- nebulous
> 2. Identifiers -- denotation mechanism (e.g., HTTP URI) for a perceived
> identity
> 3. Identification -- identity card or profile document (you can use terms
> from FOAF here) comprised of identity oriented claims
> 4. authentication -- various protocols for verifying claims made in
> identity cards and profile docs
> 5. authorization -- various protocols for providing authenticated
> identities with access to protected resources.
>
>
> Having a WebID (HTTP URI) that denotes entity "You" is how you make a name
> for yourself on an HTTP network like the Web :-)
>
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>
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>
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