Re: WebID lack of adoption, was Re: Turtle and JSON-LD Matter

On 21 Jul 2014, at 04:43, Kingsley Idehen <kidehen@openlinksw.com> wrote:

> On 7/20/14 12:17 PM, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote:
>> On 20 Jul 2014, at 15:45, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> > On 2014-07-20 15:35, henry.story@bblfish.net wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> On 20 Jul 2014, at 15:16, Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>>> >>> Google scrapped established standards such as TLS CCA, ASN.1, PKCS #10,
>>>>> >>> <keygen> and still got the entire industry (modulo Apple) backing them.
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> keygen works fine for me on Chrome. Good developers work around problems, they
>>>> >> don't just complain.
>>> > 
>>> > I'm not entirely alone:
>>> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Sep/0043.html
>>> > 
>>> > Naturally, Microsoft haven't published anything on what *they* consider the right solution.
>> The important thing is that it is in the html5 standard
>> 
>>   http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/forms.html#the-keygen-element
>> 
>> With JavaScript you can easily work around the  Microsoft exception by
>> calling their ActiveX extension. There was code published on the list here 
>> to do this in the past. This is the kind of thing that could be documented
>> here more carefully. Volunteers to improve HOWTOs are welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> Henry,
> 
> That suggestion is obsolete. 
> 
> IE knows how to work with multiple TLS sessions. It has a new session menu item, so working with different WebIDs is built-in. It has been so for years. Try it out. 

The keygen html element has nothing to do with multiple sessions. It's the html element that allows the browser to create a public/private key on form submission, and send the public key to the server. Last I looked that was not supported by IE. Although it would make our lives easier if they did implement it, I can live with them not implementing it.  I certainly am not going to waste energy trying to convince them to implement it.

Henry

Social Web Architect
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