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Re: WEbID Todos

From: Ben Laurie <benl@google.com>
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2012 12:33:03 +0100
Message-ID: <CABrd9SSvP-0ZDxjWLy4h598jN4=PSJy-ETe_U3bk2japGks6wQ@mail.gmail.com>
To: Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net>
Cc: Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com>, "public-webid@w3.org" <public-webid@w3.org>
On 8 October 2012 10:53, Henry Story <henry.story@bblfish.net> wrote:
>
> On 8 Oct 2012, at 11:36, Ben Laurie <benl@google.com> wrote:
>
>> On 6 October 2012 08:48, Melvin Carvalho <melvincarvalho@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> WebID is actually 2 specs.
>>>
>>> 1. The first part is authentication via your public key which is a IFP of
>>> your identity.  In certain circumstances (ie caching, just like
>>> ~/.ssh/authorized_keys ) you can be done here and it operates like SSH.
>>>
>>> (1) I think solves the unlinkability problem
>>
>> How? Clearly the public key makes all authentications that use it linkable.
>
> +1 yes.
>
> It' is only unlinkable in the bizarre sense (which may in fact be nonsense)
> in which for Harry Halpin BrowserId  has some unlinkable properties that
> WebID lacks.
>
> In any case the linkability issue is one which requires one to decide who
> the attacker is according to the definition [1]
>
>   If the attacker is the site you are logging into, and you want to communicate
> with that site unlinkably - as a wikileaks leaker would want to do to cover his
> tracks - then using WebID, BrowserId or other such systems is really not the
> right technology. That is pretty self evident.
>
>   On the other hand if you want to avoid a centralised network, be able to create
> long term relationships across organisations - and the site you are communicating
> with is not an attacker - then WebID is the right solution. The linkability properties
> of WebID becomes a positive without the negative of the unlinkability.
>
> Perhaps that is how we can summarise the linkability properties of WebID?

I think the question is whether linkability needs to be an unavoidable
side effect of identifying yourself to a particular site. Clearly
there are times when you want to be linked and times when you don't.
Is it clear that the moment you should decide this is the moment when
you choose your credential? I think not - and credentials do exist
that can be used at multiple sites unlinkably, as well as schemes
where credentials are per-site and so the question is moot.

>
> Henry
>
> [1] http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-iab-privacy-terminology-01#section-4
>
> Social Web Architect
> http://bblfish.net/
>
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