Re: Gutenberg and www

Dear All,

To add what I said earlier:

We may link Steven Pemberton's analysis on the Moore's Law to what he said
earlier about the condition of technology dropping in price to be usable on
a large scale (in "Hot Links and Cool Sites...", 1995)


Regard,
Guntur Wiseno Putra

Pada Sabtu, 30 Maret 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:

> Dear All,
>
> There is a consideration on the computer economy restricted an orientation
> towards storing files into computer as Licklider noticed (1960).
>
> Meanwhile it is an analysis based on Moore"s Laws which made Steven
> Pemberton rised such an enthusiasm toward electronic publication --and the
> internet of things in general. He said about the possibility of optimizing
> choices based on the analysis which are about computers having been getting
> smaller, cheaper and more powerfull at the same time.
>
> The analysis may be found, amonv others, at:
> "XML Interface toward the Internet of Things" (2015)
> https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/Talks/2015/06-07-iot/
>
> Regard,
> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>
> Pada Jumat, 29 Maret 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
> menulis:
>
>> Dear All,
>>
>> An enthusiasm of electronic publication in relation with paper-based
>> publication...
>>
>>
>> "Hot Links and Cool Sites: How Do You Make an Electronic Journal
>> Readable"? especially on "electronic publication" by Steven Pamberton
>> (1995):
>>
>> "Common complaints about electronic publications include that they are
>> not as readable as paper publications (and there is research to back this
>> up, for instance [4]
>> <https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/sigchi/elec-pub/#REF25181>, [8]
>> <https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/sigchi/elec-pub/#REF26766>), that they
>> don't feel so nice to use, and that you can't take them with you to read in
>> the train [7]
>> <https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/sigchi/elec-pub/#REF29218>.
>>
>> Some of these complaints will disappear soon enough, and are only a
>> function of technical constraints..."
>>
>> https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/sigchi/elec-pub/
>>
>>
>> Another source which is a proceeding titled "Electronic Publishing" as
>> part of a workshop at the 1st International WWW Conference 1994 by Steven
>> Pemberton:
>>
>> https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/elecpub.htm
>>
>>
>> --I ever sent it to this mailing in a message titled "Electronic
>> Publishing and the Web-related activities":
>>
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webhistory/2019Mar/0015.html
>> <https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webhistory/2019Mar/0015.htmlRegard>
>>
>>
>> Regard
>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>
>> Pada Kamis, 28 Maret 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>> menulis:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>
>>> The web address for "The Computer as a Device" is same with that of
>>> "Man-Computer Symbiosis"
>>>
>>> http://memex.org/licklider.pdf
>>>
>>> The link is suggested by W3C 10th anniversary's "How It All Started:
>>> Pre-W3C Web and Internet Background: 1960 J.C.R. Licklider "Man Computer
>>> Symbiosis"
>>>
>>> https://www.w3.org/2004/Talks/w3c10-HowItAllStarted/?n=3
>>>
>>> Regard,
>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>
>>> Pada Kamis, 28 Maret 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>>> menulis:
>>>
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> It is said the computer, book, and communication:
>>>>
>>>> "But to communicate is more than to send and to receive. Do two tape
>>>> recorders communicate when they play to each other and record from each
>>>> other? Not really-not in our sense. We believe that communicators have
>>>> to do something nontrivial with the information they send and receive.
>>>> And
>>>> we believe that we are entering a technological age in which we will be
>>>> able
>>>> to interact with the richness of living information—not merely in the
>>>> passive
>>>> way that we have become accustomed to using books and libraries, but as
>>>> active participants in an ongoing process, bringing something to it
>>>> through
>>>> our interaction with it, and not simply receiving something from it by
>>>> our
>>>> connection to it.
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Such a medium is at hand—the programmed digital computer. Its pres-
>>>> ence can change the nature and value of communication even more pro-
>>>> foundly than did the printing press and the picture tube, for, as we
>>>> shall
>>>> show, a well-programmed computer can provide direct access both to
>>>> infor-
>>>> mational resources and to the processes for making use of the resource",
>>>>
>>>> (Licklider, J.C.R. and R. W. Taylor, "The Computer as  a Communication
>>>> Devices, 1968, republished by System Research Center 1990 p. 21-22)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regard,
>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>
>>>> Pada Kamis, 28 Maret 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>>>> menulis:
>>>>
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It is from Licklider's consideration on "Ma-Computer Symbiosis" (1960)
>>>>> especially on "Memory Hardware Requirements": "books"...
>>>>>
>>>>> "The first thing to face is that we shall not store all the technical
>>>>> and
>>>>> scientific papers in computer memory. We may store the parts that can
>>>>> be summarized most succinctly—the quantitative parts and the reference
>>>>> citations—but not the whole. Books are among the most beautifully en-
>>>>> gineered, and human-engineered, components in existence, and they will
>>>>> continue to be functionally important within the context of
>>>>> man-computer
>>>>> symbiosis. (Hopefully, the computer will expedite the finding,
>>>>> delivering,
>>>>> and returning of books.)"
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://memex.org/licklider.pdf
>>>>>
>>>>> If the books meant by Licklider are records as we find them out now as
>>>>> paper-printed and electronical ones...?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regard,
>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>
>>>>> Pada Jumat, 22 Maret 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
>>>>> menulis:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I finded it as one related closely as we may say about "the Internet
>>>>>> Web": "Gutenberg and the Internet"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Book 1450
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Printing in 1568]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gutenberg combined known technologies: ink, paper, wine presses,
>>>>>> movable type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1990 The Web
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tim Berners-Lee (and Robert Caillau) created the Web at CERN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like Gutenberg with the printing press, they brought together
>>>>>> existing technologies (Hypertext, the internet, MIME types) and created a
>>>>>> cohesive whole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Web is now replacing the book (along with many other things).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Telephone directories, encyclopaedias, train timetables, other
>>>>>> reference works are already gone. Others will follow.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Books (as an artefact) will become a niche market. All information
>>>>>> will be internet-based.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://homepages.cwi.nl/~steven/Talks/2018/12-01-mediaart/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regard,
>>>>>> Guntur Wiseno Putra
>>>>>>
>>>>>