RE: WebFonts F2F details and proposed agenda - Tuesday, Sep. 3, 2019

Not a bad idea, if you ask me! And, speaking of timeline of the event - since we have a hard stop at 5 pm (we will be kicked out of the meeting venue after 5 pm), it is all quite doable!

From: Roderick Sheeter [mailto:rsheeter@google.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 12:24 PM
To: Ken Lunde <lunde@adobe.com>
Cc: Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>; WebFonts WG <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>
Subject: Re: WebFonts F2F details and proposed agenda - Tuesday, Sep. 3, 2019

A little sushi, then a gyoza-fest, then unwind at an izakaya :)
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019, 9:01 AM Ken Lunde <lunde@adobe.com<mailto:lunde@adobe.com>> wrote:
Or a massive gyoza-fest.

> On Aug 29, 2019, at 8:38 AM, Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com<mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>> wrote:
>
> Even when in Rome ... chicken, beef, fish or pasta are still the choice we need to make! ;-)
> In Japanese, this would be the choice between teppanyaki, izakaya, sushi, or soba.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ken Lunde [mailto:lunde@adobe.com<mailto:lunde@adobe.com>]
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 8:11 AM
> To: Roderick Sheeter <rsheeter@google.com<mailto:rsheeter@google.com>>
> Cc: Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com<mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>>; w3c-webfonts-wg (public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>) <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>>
> Subject: Re: WebFonts F2F details and proposed agenda - Tuesday, Sep. 3, 2019
>
> When in Rome... 😉
>
>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 10:02 PM, Roderick Sheeter <rsheeter@google.com<mailto:rsheeter@google.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Happy with anything Japanese :)
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 12:49 PM Ken Lunde <lunde@adobe.com<mailto:lunde@adobe.com>> wrote:
>> Vladimir,
>>
>> My earlier suggestion was meant to be humor (though I plan to have dinner there on the 2nd).
>>
>> A co-worker told me that Teppanyaki Hamayu is good, and is located in the hotel where I am satying (aka convenient). I will be having a team dinner at Gompachi on Thursday evening.
>>
>> Regards...
>>
>> -- Ken
>>
>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 12:41 PM, Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com<mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>> wrote:
>>>
>>> There are other options available, like a nice Teppanyaki Hamayu place (https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2Fmaps%2FXXPFDdjHMLQHqVPE8&amp;data=02%7C01%7Clunde%40adobe.com%7Cd59a8c6d1bc84a864e7408d72c96f388%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637026899159173659&amp;sdata=jz0IgLkmGI7sZ%2F4uHCRHJcXNP3G5sAAjxOqz%2BX35y9w%3D&amp;reserved=0), and, surprisingly, the highest rated of them all is the Thai place "Prince And Princess" (https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgoo.gl%2Fmaps%2FGbgo5PEkd61ShbDa6&amp;data=02%7C01%7Clunde%40adobe.com%7Cd59a8c6d1bc84a864e7408d72c96f388%7Cfa7b1b5a7b34438794aed2c178decee1%7C0%7C0%7C637026899159183655&amp;sdata=84zoCtIP2aSeZ1bZw6bbAvKmyvkS2w46VXr225fppRs%3D&amp;reserved=0).
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Levantovsky, Vladimir
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 3:35 PM
>>> To: Ken Lunde <lunde@adobe.com<mailto:lunde@adobe.com>>
>>> Cc: w3c-webfonts-wg (public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>)
>>> <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>>
>>> Subject: RE: WebFonts F2F details and proposed agenda - Tuesday,
>>> Sep. 3, 2019
>>>
>>> This looks like a really good lunch option, the description says
>>> "modern fast-food joint with Hawaiian flair". I am not sure if it is
>>> also a good dinner choice, my knowledge of Japanese is limited by
>>> Google translator :)
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Ken Lunde [mailto:lunde@adobe.com<mailto:lunde@adobe.com>]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 3:25 PM
>>> To: Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com<mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>>
>>> Cc: w3c-webfonts-wg (public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>)
>>> <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: WebFonts F2F details and proposed agenda - Tuesday,
>>> Sep. 3, 2019
>>>
>>> KUA`AINA →
>>> https://ww

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>>>> On Aug 28, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Levantovsky, Vladimir <Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com<mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I need your input for the last topic of the agenda – the WG dinner!
>>>> Looking at the available choices of restaurants nearby – we seem to have many good choices of a traditional variety: Oshima Odaiba (sushi restaurant), Garuva (looks like a Korean BBQ place), Gonpachi (Izakaya restaurant [serving meat and other stuff on skewers]), Sizzler (self-proclaimed “Japanized western restaurant” [buffet style, all you can eat]), and some other choices – all within an easy walk from the venue. I am sure many other fine places are available if we venture out into big city.
>>>>
>>>> To make an informed decision – please share you preferences (culinary, location, etc.) Also, let me know if you plan to join the WG dinner or have some other plans for the evening.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Vlad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Levantovsky, Vladimir
>>>> [mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com<mailto:Vladimir.Levantovsky@monotype.com>]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 3:25 PM
>>>> To: w3c-webfonts-wg (public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>)
>>>> <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org<mailto:public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>>
>>>> Subject: WebFonts F2F details and proposed agenda - Tuesday, Sep.
>>>> 3,
>>>> 2019
>>>>
>>>> Hello WG,
>>>>
>>>> In preparation for our face-to-face meeting next week, I’d like to share the following information for your review:
>>>>
>>>> Date and time: September 3rd, 2019, 9 AM – 5 PM Japan local time
>>>> (UTC: Sep. 3, 00:00 – 08:00; US Pacific: Sep. 2, 5 PM – 1 AM next
>>>> day; US Eastern: Sep. 2, 8 PM – 4 AM)
>>>>
>>>> Location
>>>> Miraikan National Museum of Emerging Science and Innovation,
>>>> 2-3-6 Aomi, Koto-ku, Tokyo, Japan (Tel.: +81-3-3570-9151)
>>>> https://w

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>>>> Room TBD – hosted by ATypI
>>>>
>>>> Attendance
>>>> The following WG members have confirmed their F2F attendance:
>>>> Vladimir Levantovsky, Roderick Sheeter, Ken Lunde, Jason Pamental, Garret Rieger, Chris Lilley, Myles Maxfield, Ned Holbrook.
>>>>
>>>> Teleconferencing: IRC and Zoom meeting facilities will be available for the duration of the meeting.
>>>>
>>>> Proposed agenda:
>>>> 1.       Introductions / Administrivia (15 min)
>>>> - Charter review: timeline, deliverables [0];
>>>> - Review open action items [1];
>>>> - Future WG telcon scheduling;
>>>> 2.       PFE Evaluation Report topics (~ 1 hour)
>>>> - Summary of work done to date:
>>>>  Analysis of existing solutions [2, 3];
>>>>  Font data analysis:  [4-7] (also see original email items,
>>>> unfortunately web archive doesn’t preserve inline images);
>>>> - Discussion of the proposed PFE approaches: binary patch-based, byte-range, hybrid (including modified hybrid approach) [2, 8-10]
>>>> 3.       Planning / future work items (~ 2 hours)
>>>> - Performance analysis framework of proposed PFE approaches [11] (~ 30 min):
>>>>  Languages / technologies for framework to use;
>>>>  Repo location
>>>> - Simulation Planning (including implementation steps / timeline / contributors ~ 1 hour):
>>>>  Patch-based subset font loading (including hybrid approach variants);
>>>>  Patch & subset protocol design [12];
>>>>  HTTP range request font loading (font preprocessor and loading simulation) [8];
>>>>  Unicode-range font loading simulation;
>>>> - Input data set / Font corpus (< 30 min):
>>>>  Ways to acquire input data / page view data set;
>>>>  Font contributions
>>>>
>>>> (Lunch break ~ 1 hour)
>>>>
>>>> 4.       Additional items for discussion (~ 1 hour 30 min)::
>>>> - Variable fonts and PFE;
>>>> - Value of PFE for simple & complex scripts;
>>>> - Harfbuzz subsetter;
>>>> 5.       AOB
>>>> 6.       Dinner (TBD)
>>>>
>>>> Your input and additional topic suggestions are very much appreciated!
>>>> Many thanks to Garret who contributed his proposed agenda items.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Vlad
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> References:
>>>> [0] WebFonts WG charter:
>>>> https://w

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