- From: David Berlow <dberlow@fontbureau.com>
- Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 07:42:55 -0400
- To: "public-webfonts-wg@w3.org" <public-webfonts-wg@w3.org>
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>Are you talking here specifically in terms of WOFF file metadata, or font metadata more generally? JH, I am thinking of both: WOFF, and backwards to UFO. I’m writing here within the scope of WOFF. I think users and web authors should be sharing WOFF’s metadata, though perhaps not the same UIs to that metadata. WOFF, as the intelligent web font format (vs SVG) should I think, contain three kinds: origins and credits, permissions, and recomendations. The first is mostly covered in the spec now, including optional space for the kerner’s caterer, so I’m happy. I’m not going to say credits are not that important again, but rather point out that if a font is horribly used, sized, scaled and rendered, and nearly “all” the user can find out is my name — I know most users will be assuming I’m dead, but for the few that find out I’m alive – it’s hardly productive or community-building to be so frugal with meta data.* The permissions are intended for information purposes only and is to protect the web author and publisher. Permissions for WOFF should cover all linking and embedding options on the web. Right now it looks like there’s just one url in the spec. The third, which I consider the most important, is recommendations. I think, every property a WOFF CAN have assigned to it in HTML/CSS, MUST be covered here by whatever metadata makes sense, per property in WOFF’s metadata spec. EPAR “only” covered those properties present in the spec as of a few months ago, but some sort of W3C rule should be applied to WOFF where: If the list of all “text” or “font” properties changes, Then WOFF MUST change too. If people want to make WOFF into more than a web format before it is completely specified, that could complicåte things. But otherwise, I think this is doable now with wide support. Recommendations, tied to the properties of HTML/CSS, would need no extensibility outside the rule stated above, would it? And one way maybe to think ahead of the problem (perhaps partly out of scope), is that WOFF’s metadata should cover all the properties SVG fonts have now, as: won’t web authors want to apply all those properties to WOFF in the near future? How do SVG and WOFF coexist, merge? Is SVG going to get smarter about glyphs, kerning and features, or what? >I am sorry I don't understand what it is that users would check to see if fonts are used according to the metadata. Vlad, I was not speaking about whether an end user would be interested in the permissability of the use they were seeing, though I can easily imagine the corporate owner of a proprietary font wishing to do so. I was talking more of UI features of UA’s (not just browsers). End user’s agents could compare the recommendations in the metadata to the web author’s css, so the user of the font(s) could know these fonts are being used within the recommendations, or not. This is looking forward to a time when fonts don’t look ugly because of browsers or OS anymore, but lots of education still remains. In conjunction with the web author’s use of this metadata, I’m planning to make it possible for web authors to shop via this metadata. * If I have to, I’ll address the issue of metadata being too big for cell phones, but I’d rather hang up.;)
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